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Old November 4th 04, 03:25 PM
Jay Masino
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I guess one of the problems I have with him is that he obviously can't
think QUICKLY. Even if you put asside the 7 minutes he sat, after the
2nd plane hit (screw the damn school kids. they'll get over it), anyone
who's watched him stumble over his words, continuously, over the last 4
years (heck, he can't even read off of a damn'ed teleprompter) has to come
to the conclusion that he is NOT a very quick thinker. If he was running
for City Council, I'd say "no big deal", but I expect more from my
President.

The second thing that bothers me is that he's a religious zealot. In
fact, you could almost argue that his religious convictions are as
extreme as the Islamic extremists that we're fighting.

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Old November 4th 04, 04:29 PM
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On 04 Nov 2004 15:25:51 GMT, (Jay Masino)
wrote:


I guess one of the problems I have with him is that he obviously can't
think QUICKLY. Even if you put asside the 7 minutes he sat, after the
2nd plane hit (screw the damn school kids. they'll get over it), anyone
who's watched him stumble over his words, continuously, over the last 4
years (heck, he can't even read off of a damn'ed teleprompter) has to come
to the conclusion that he is NOT a very quick thinker. If he was running
for City Council, I'd say "no big deal", but I expect more from my
President.


Gail Sheehy wrote an article about Bush for Vanity Fair during his
first run to the presidency. In the article (among several other
things) she explored the possibility that Bush was dyslexic. She did
not call him dyslexic, she just interviewed people who were expert
with the symptoms and were willing to look at his malapropisms and
tortured english and comment, in their capacity as experts in the
field.

One of the things that was observed, which is a fact and not subject
to spin, is that dyslexia tends to run in families and Bush's brother
was a diagnosed dyslexic. The other thing that was observed was that
every symptom of Bush's speech and reading that was held up for
observation by the interviewed experts was labeled as being commonly
associated with diagnosed dyslexics.

Bush and his aides have categorically denied that he is dyslexic but
in fact he claims he has never been tested for it, so they literally
cannot know if he is or is not. The problem is, if he is not
dyslexic, as he and his aides claim, then what is causing the speech
and reading difficulties? Because no one is denying that he has
speech and reading difficulties.

Being dyslexic does NOT mean being stupid although it's possible Bush
or Bush's people think that it would be a political liability to admit
such. It is claimed that Winston Churchill, whom Bush is said to
admire, was dyslexic. They are other great thinkers who were
dyslexic, or at least showed the symptoms of dyslexia so it's not like
it should be considered a fault, and obviously, Bush has overcome
whatever is afflicting him in monumental fashion. The electorate
obviously doesn't care, they elected him twice without knowing why he
frequently mangles english.

In my opinion being dyslexic goes a LONG way towards explaining his
lack of reading ability and difficulty with the english language. For
dyslexics, reading is especially difficult, it's "hard work" ;-).
Another datapoint: Bush depends mostly on spoken briefings as opposed
to reading reports. (Aside: had Bush been a voracious reader, would he
have thoroughly read the fated Presidential Daily Briefing that
outlined the danger of el Qaida prior to 9/11 which he admits he did
not do? We'll never know). For this reason, Bush is especially
dependent on his advisors and their ability/interpretation of what's
important. But that's what they're there for.

The second thing that bothers me is that he's a religious zealot. In
fact, you could almost argue that his religious convictions are as
extreme as the Islamic extremists that we're fighting.


Bothers me too.

Corky Scott



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Old November 4th 04, 05:34 PM
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In my opinion being dyslexic goes a LONG way towards explaining his
lack of reading ability and difficulty with the english language. For
dyslexics, reading is especially difficult, it's "hard work" ;-).


As always, Corky, your observations are refreshing and spot on. This DOES
make sense.

And some of the smartest people I've met have been dyslexic -- which has
always been a hard thing for this old English major to understand.
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Old November 4th 04, 06:18 PM
Jay Masino
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Jay Honeck wrote:
In my opinion being dyslexic goes a LONG way towards explaining his
lack of reading ability and difficulty with the english language. For
dyslexics, reading is especially difficult, it's "hard work" ;-).

As always, Corky, your observations are refreshing and spot on. This DOES
make sense.


Of course, that would only explain his problems with the teleprompter.
He also stumbles, and often looks confused, when he's being asked a
question off the cuff. He may be intelligent enough, when given enough
time to think about things, but a President should be able to speak
intelligently about subjects, with little or no preparation, without
stumbling like an idiot. There's still the 7 minutes he waited after the
2nd plane hit the towers. What if it had been the beginning of a nuclear
attack?

And one other thing I thought of (un-related)... Doesn't it bother anyone
that the Bush campaign REQUIRED people to sign an oath of allegiance
before allowing them into his rallies. Actually, that one issue would
have prevented me from voting for him. That was absolutely deplorable.

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Old November 5th 04, 04:01 AM
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And one other thing I thought of (un-related)... Doesn't it bother anyone
that the Bush campaign REQUIRED people to sign an oath of allegiance
before allowing them into his rallies. Actually, that one issue would
have prevented me from voting for him. That was absolutely deplorable.


That bothered me a lot, too, until I spoke with a guy I know who was
involved with security for the presidential visits to Iowa.

He explained that the security issues surrounding the president -- and the
untold number of threats against him -- meant that the Secret Service
required that he be kept away from impromptu, unknown crowds as much as
possible.

Sadly, with the country at war, there are more nutcases than usual who have
pronounced their willingness to assassinate the president. Recording the
names and phone numbers of everyone admitted to a rally (and running
security checks on them) was just the most visible way they kept Bush safe
throughout the campaign -- and the Democrats played that up big politically.
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Old November 5th 04, 04:18 AM
Orval Fairbairn
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In article iWCid.365126$D%.160998@attbi_s51,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:

And one other thing I thought of (un-related)... Doesn't it bother anyone
that the Bush campaign REQUIRED people to sign an oath of allegiance
before allowing them into his rallies. Actually, that one issue would
have prevented me from voting for him. That was absolutely deplorable.


That bothered me a lot, too, until I spoke with a guy I know who was
involved with security for the presidential visits to Iowa.

He explained that the security issues surrounding the president -- and the
untold number of threats against him -- meant that the Secret Service
required that he be kept away from impromptu, unknown crowds as much as
possible.

Sadly, with the country at war, there are more nutcases than usual who have
pronounced their willingness to assassinate the president. Recording the
names and phone numbers of everyone admitted to a rally (and running
security checks on them) was just the most visible way they kept Bush safe
throughout the campaign -- and the Democrats played that up big politically.



Just reading the subject lines in some of the newsgroups confirms Jay's
last paragraph. We see nutcases calling for assassination, impeachment,
all kinds of vicious names, etc.

Also, the recent campaign brought out the worst in both sides of the
election, with a lot of hard feelings to go around. It is enough to push
some unstable personalities over the edge.
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Old November 5th 04, 12:18 PM
Jay Masino
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Jay Honeck wrote:
That bothered me a lot, too, until I spoke with a guy I know who was
involved with security for the presidential visits to Iowa.

He explained that the security issues surrounding the president -- and the
untold number of threats against him -- meant that the Secret Service
required that he be kept away from impromptu, unknown crowds as much as
possible.


That's no excuse. Having grown up in the Maryland suburbs of DC, I've
always been "aware" of Presidential security. They were feeding you a
lie. It was a disgusting tactic for a political rally.

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Old November 5th 04, 01:04 PM
Jay Honeck
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That's no excuse. Having grown up in the Maryland suburbs of DC, I've
always been "aware" of Presidential security. They were feeding you a
lie. It was a disgusting tactic for a political rally.


Well, now, do I think that a political party is above using a "security
excuse" provided to them by the Secret Service to make sure that they have a
positive event?

Nope.

I'm shocked...SHOCKED, that there are politics going on here!

;-)
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Old November 5th 04, 02:37 PM
Matt Barrow
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"Jay Masino" wrote in message
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Jay Honeck wrote:
That bothered me a lot, too, until I spoke with a guy I know who was
involved with security for the presidential visits to Iowa.

He explained that the security issues surrounding the president -- and

the
untold number of threats against him -- meant that the Secret Service
required that he be kept away from impromptu, unknown crowds as much as
possible.


That's no excuse. Having grown up in the Maryland suburbs of DC, I've
always been "aware" of Presidential security.


It was a very different situation then. After the two attacks on Ford,
Reagan in 1981 and the occurances during Clinton's term (the airplane and
the guy with the SKS) they HAVE to be more careful.

They were feeding you a
lie. It was a disgusting tactic for a political rally.


And you're full of ****.



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Old November 6th 04, 04:59 PM
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Ya know! That's a good point,,, an assassin would NEVER lie with his/her
signature on an oath of allegiance just to get closer to the president. JAY
do you read what you write,,,,, are you saying that some idiot who wanted to
get close to the president to do him harm wouldn't LIE on the allegiance
'form'? That's probably why criminals 'never' rob people on Christmas,
they wouldn't want to rob people on a Christian holiday, because it would be
wrong..... (of course, I'm being facetious here, Jay).
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