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Jay Beckman wrote:



Giuliani-Rice might work, but howzabout Colin Powell - Elizabeth Dole?

Either ticket would probably make the loyal oppositon's heads explode.

I would never vote for Bush but I have nothing but respect for Colin Powell,
he is the best asset this administration has (had?). If Powell had led the
ticket in 2000 I doubt it would have been even remotely close.

--
Frank....H

"Frank" wrote in message ...
I would never vote for Bush but I have nothing but respect for Colin
Powell

Are you talking about the same Colin Powell that got in front of the UN and
swore up and down that he had incontrovertible evidence of weapons of mass
destruction in Iraq?

he is the best asset this administration has (had?).

That's probably true. Damning with faint praise though.

Pete

Peter,

Are you talking about the same Colin Powell that got in front of the UN and
swore up and down that he had incontrovertible evidence of weapons of mass
destruction in Iraq?


Hey, claiming stuff like that is what's getting presidents re-elected in the
land of the free, so it must be right...

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Peter Duniho wrote:

"Frank" wrote in message ...
I would never vote for Bush but I have nothing but respect for Colin
Powell

Are you talking about the same Colin Powell that got in front of the UN
and swore up and down that he had incontrovertible evidence of weapons of
mass destruction in Iraq?

he is the best asset this administration has (had?).

That's probably true. Damning with faint praise though.

Pete

It certainly was not his best moment and it did indeed diminish is stature
somewhat. But the circumstances at the time backed him into a corner.

I am willing to cut him a little slack because I believe he thought by doing
the UN thing he could regain some influence and head off some of the other
disasters he saw looming. Too bad he was wrong.


--
Frank....H

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 12:27:25 -0600, Frank wrote:

Jay Beckman wrote:



Giuliani-Rice might work, but howzabout Colin Powell - Elizabeth Dole?

Either ticket would probably make the loyal oppositon's heads explode.

I would never vote for Bush but I have nothing but respect for Colin Powell,
he is the best asset this administration has (had?). If Powell had led the
ticket in 2000 I doubt it would have been even remotely close.

I had (past tense) great respect for Colin Powell and was pleased when
he became secretary of state. My respect for him was lost when he
became the lapdog of the administration and was not allowed to
function as anything other than a conduit for policies that he did not
believe in. If he had resigned, and maintained his integrity I would
still respect him. I was often embarrassed for him and he should have
been embarrassed for himself.
Rich Russell

"Richard Russell" wrote in message
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On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 12:27:25 -0600, Frank wrote:

Jay Beckman wrote:



Giuliani-Rice might work, but howzabout Colin Powell - Elizabeth Dole?

Either ticket would probably make the loyal oppositon's heads explode.

I would never vote for Bush but I have nothing but respect for Colin
Powell,
he is the best asset this administration has (had?). If Powell had led the
ticket in 2000 I doubt it would have been even remotely close.

I had (past tense) great respect for Colin Powell and was pleased when
he became secretary of state. My respect for him was lost when he
became the lapdog of the administration and was not allowed to
function as anything other than a conduit for policies that he did not
believe in. If he had resigned, and maintained his integrity I would
still respect him. I was often embarrassed for him and he should have
been embarrassed for himself.
Rich Russell

How do you know what Gen Powell personally believes?

It's quite possible, is it not, that his military training begat someone who
is a team player and follows orders?

Isn't the SecState supposed to be the spokesperson/conduit for his/her
administrations policies?

Jay Beckman
Chandler, AZ
PP-ASEL

On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 22:06:13 -0700, "Jay Beckman"
wrote:

"Richard Russell" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 12:27:25 -0600, Frank wrote:

Jay Beckman wrote:



Giuliani-Rice might work, but howzabout Colin Powell - Elizabeth Dole?

Either ticket would probably make the loyal oppositon's heads explode.

I would never vote for Bush but I have nothing but respect for Colin
Powell,
he is the best asset this administration has (had?). If Powell had led the
ticket in 2000 I doubt it would have been even remotely close.

I had (past tense) great respect for Colin Powell and was pleased when
he became secretary of state. My respect for him was lost when he
became the lapdog of the administration and was not allowed to
function as anything other than a conduit for policies that he did not
believe in. If he had resigned, and maintained his integrity I would
still respect him. I was often embarrassed for him and he should have
been embarrassed for himself.
Rich Russell

How do you know what Gen Powell personally believes?

It's quite possible, is it not, that his military training begat someone who
is a team player and follows orders?

Isn't the SecState supposed to be the spokesperson/conduit for his/her
administrations policies?

Jay Beckman
Chandler, AZ
PP-ASEL

You are absolutely correct. I'm certain that his military training is
what kept him from "abandoning" his post. That doesn't, however,
change my original statement that he should have resigned. That is my
opinion, nothing more. I don't "know" what he thinks any more than
any of the other posters in this thread and many others "know" for a
fact that their opinions are correct. I have seen Secretary Powell on
TV and read enough of his statements to believe that my assessment is
correct. I've never seen anyone hedge his comments or look so pained,
at times, as he did.
Rich Russell