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Old November 4th 04, 07:40 PM
Peter Duniho
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"kontiki" wrote in message
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If this is true,


It is true. Factual reports provide the facts, polls provide the
information regarding what people believe.

then I submit that people who voted for Kerry and Edwards
refused to believe any factual reports that contradicted many of their
claims as well.


Perhaps. As far as I know, there is no polling data on that. However,
there are "little lies" and there are "big lies". IMHO, "big lies" are the
ones where thousands of people die. Kerry hasn't made any of those "big
lies".

Pete


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Old November 4th 04, 08:42 PM
John T
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Peter Duniho wrote:

...polls provide the information regarding what people believe.


Uh huh. Which polls are these? Are they compiled by the same ones
compiling the exit polling data?

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Old November 4th 04, 09:21 PM
Peter Duniho
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"John T" wrote in message
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...polls provide the information regarding what people believe.


Uh huh. Which polls are these?


A well-known, well-respected polling organization. Gallup. Maybe you've
heard of them?

Are they compiled by the same ones compiling the exit polling data?


Gallup is, I believe, one of the companies that do exit polling as well.

Pete


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Old November 4th 04, 10:43 PM
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Uh huh. Which polls are these? Are they compiled by the same ones
compiling the exit polling data?


This is a prime example of the ignorance of so many people. The exit polls
on election day were actually amazingly accurate. What many people like you
should learn before you start spouting off is what actually happened.
Results from the exit polls was leaked before the polls were complete, i.e.
around 3 or 4 pm, before the polls were closed. The blogging community took
the leak and ran with it. Of course those numbers are not going to be
accurate since the poll is not yet finished! The polling data at the end of
the day was accuate. And yes, the demographic and rationale data is just as
accurate.


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Old November 5th 04, 01:59 AM
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"Greg Butler" wrote in message


This is a prime example of the ignorance of so many people. The exit
polls on election day were actually amazingly accurate. What many
people like you should learn before you start spouting off is what
actually happened. Results from the exit polls was leaked before the
polls were complete, i.e. around 3 or 4 pm, before the polls were
closed.


No, it's not "spouting off." Those exit polls are what are routinely
released to various news outlets *during* the polling. If it were a matter
of waiting until the polls closed, there'd be little value to an exit poll
since the ballots would soon be counted, anyway.

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Old November 5th 04, 12:16 AM
Greg Butler
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No, it's not "spouting off." Those exit polls are what are routinely
released to various news outlets *during* the polling.


Thats not true. The do not release any of the data to anyone because it
would sway the remaining votes one way.

If it were a matter
of waiting until the polls closed, there'd be little value to an exit poll
since the ballots would soon be counted, anyway.


That's how it worked in the 70's and early 80's, but not today. Today the
exit polls are used after the polls have closed so that they do not have to
wait on all the precincts to report in which can take an hour at the least.
With the exit polls, it allows them to call the state as soon as the polls
close.


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Old November 5th 04, 11:29 PM
Matt Whiting
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John T wrote:

"Greg Butler" wrote in message


This is a prime example of the ignorance of so many people. The exit
polls on election day were actually amazingly accurate. What many
people like you should learn before you start spouting off is what
actually happened. Results from the exit polls was leaked before the
polls were complete, i.e. around 3 or 4 pm, before the polls were
closed.



No, it's not "spouting off." Those exit polls are what are routinely
released to various news outlets *during* the polling. If it were a matter
of waiting until the polls closed, there'd be little value to an exit poll
since the ballots would soon be counted, anyway.


To me the concept of an exit poll is asinine. What difference does it
make? Just count the votes.


Matt

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Old November 5th 04, 04:14 AM
Jay Honeck
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Uh huh. Which polls are these? Are they compiled by the same ones
compiling the exit polling data?


This is a prime example of the ignorance of so many people. The exit polls
on election day were actually amazingly accurate. What many people like
you should learn before you start spouting off is what actually happened.
Results from the exit polls was leaked before the polls were complete,
i.e. around 3 or 4 pm, before the polls were closed.


I heard a terrific explanation of this exit polling phenomenon at the
airport today, from an old gray-head sitting in the terminal building...

He said "OF COURSE the exit polls showed Kerry ahead early in the day -- all
the Republicans work for a living, and couldn't vote till after 6 PM!"

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Old November 5th 04, 01:30 AM
Greg Butler
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He said "OF COURSE the exit polls showed Kerry ahead early in the day --
all
the Republicans work for a living, and couldn't vote till after 6 PM!"


The funny part is that is exactly right.


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Old November 5th 04, 05:17 AM
Dave Stadt
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"Greg Butler" wrote in message
. ..

He said "OF COURSE the exit polls showed Kerry ahead early in the day --
all
the Republicans work for a living, and couldn't vote till after 6 PM!"


The funny part is that is exactly right.


Now wait a minute.........it's hard work sitting at home waiting for the
government check to show up.


 




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