Election results may bring good change to aviation

To start with GA is just about the exclusive user of FSS. It is also pretty
much the only user of the majority of airports in the country.

Mike
MU-2


"Jose" wrote in message
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The total collected is around $60 million which is about 11% of what it
costs to run FSS alone. These numbers were in a recent AOPA magazine.
GA is not paying its way.

What is "its way"? Remember, GA uses less runway and probably (because so
much of it is VFR) less ATC than the airlines. That spam cans are slower
isn't an issue really, since their trips may well take the same number of
minutes or less, on average, than airline trips. How much would it take
for bicycles to pay "their way" of the land transportation infrastructure?

Jose
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To start with GA is just about the exclusive user of FSS.

Fair enough, though this is pretty much by law (and by TFR).

It is also pretty
much the only user of the majority of airports in the country.

.... most of which are self supporting, no? I don't see any airline or federal aviation funds going into Podunk Municipal Grass Strip.

Jose
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Jose wrote:



... most of which are self supporting, no? I don't see any airline or
federal aviation funds going into Podunk Municipal Grass Strip.

Ya better look a little harder. The FAA pays for 95% of airport
improvements now at Podunk Muni. So anytime you see a little airport
repaving a runway, adding a taxiway, etc; it is almost always federal
funds. There aren't very many self supporting little airports.

"Jose" wrote in message
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To start with GA is just about the exclusive user of FSS.

Fair enough, though this is pretty much by law (and by TFR).

It is also pretty much the only user of the majority of airports in the
country.

... most of which are self supporting, no? I don't see any airline or
federal aviation funds going into Podunk Municipal Grass Strip.

Jose
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As Newps point out most airports recieve 95% of their funding from federal
grants. It always surprises me how many pilots think that GA pays it own
way. It is similiar to the myth that the middle class pays the bulk of
taxes.

Mike
MU-2

"Jose" wrote in message
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To start with GA is just about the exclusive user of FSS.

Fair enough, though this is pretty much by law (and by TFR).

It is also pretty
much the only user of the majority of airports in the country.

... most of which are self supporting, no?

No.

I don't see any airline or federal aviation funds going into Podunk
Municipal Grass Strip.

Those airports (grass) are not typically municipal airports. They get about
0.002% of traffic. And yes, many DO get federal assistance.

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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"Jose" wrote in message
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To start with GA is just about the exclusive user of FSS.

Fair enough, though this is pretty much by law (and by TFR).

It is also pretty
much the only user of the majority of airports in the country.

... most of which are self supporting, no?

No.

I don't see any airline or federal aviation funds going into Podunk
Municipal Grass Strip.

Those airports (grass) are not typically municipal airports. They get
about
0.002% of traffic. And yes, many DO get federal assistance.


What do the Feds assist them with?

In article et, "Mike
Rapoport" wrote:

To start with GA is just about the exclusive user of FSS. It is also
pretty
much the only user of the majority of airports in the country.

How much money would the FAA save if every aircraft under 6,000 lbs
was permanently grounded?

--
Bob Noel
Seen on Kerry's campaign airplane: "the real deal"
oh yeah baby.

$600,000,000 for flight service less the tax on avgas
(60,000,000)=$540,000,000
Some portion of the airport improvement funds ( I think that these total
over $2 Billion
Some portion of ATC.

Probably between a billion and a billion and a half.

Mike
MU-2

about
"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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In article et, "Mike
Rapoport" wrote:

To start with GA is just about the exclusive user of FSS. It is also
pretty
much the only user of the majority of airports in the country.

How much money would the FAA save if every aircraft under 6,000 lbs
was permanently grounded?

--
Bob Noel
Seen on Kerry's campaign airplane: "the real deal"
oh yeah baby.

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 14:18:23 GMT, "Mike Rapoport"
wrote:

$600,000,000 for flight service less the tax on avgas

Sheesh! That's about $1000 for every licensed pilot. I'm sure not
getting my money's worth. I fly about 150-200 hours per year, call
flight service maybe once (to close a flight plan) or twice (to get an
in-flight weather briefing). I won't be needing the latter any more
as I'm now getting XM weather in the cockpit and I rarely file VFR
flight plans any more either - I just tell my wife where I'm going and
call her when I get there.

Do you have a cite for that $600M figure? If it's really that much, I
say just close the dang thing.

Thanks,
Klein

Here is the source:

http://www.aopa.org/members/files/pi...04/pp0408.html

Mike
MU-2



"Klein" wrote in message
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On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 14:18:23 GMT, "Mike Rapoport"
wrote:

$600,000,000 for flight service less the tax on avgas

Sheesh! That's about $1000 for every licensed pilot. I'm sure not
getting my money's worth. I fly about 150-200 hours per year, call
flight service maybe once (to close a flight plan) or twice (to get an
in-flight weather briefing). I won't be needing the latter any more
as I'm now getting XM weather in the cockpit and I rarely file VFR
flight plans any more either - I just tell my wife where I'm going and
call her when I get there.

Do you have a cite for that $600M figure? If it's really that much, I
say just close the dang thing.

Thanks,
Klein