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Old November 6th 04, 09:44 PM
Bill Denton
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"Homophobe"; the last refuge of the village idiot.

I've never heard an intelligent person use that term.





"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"Bill Denton" wrote in message
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[...] Yea, the South is a really prejudiced place!


It sure was in the 80's. I can't speak for the current atmosphere, but

when
I lived in Virginia, the common refrain when a black man ran for governor
was "I'm not racist, but I just can't imagine one of THOSE people as
governor." Of course, that would never be said to the face of a black
person. But it was said, nevertheless.

The South has a much better handle on manners, and so the racism isn't
nearly as overt as it might be elsewhere. But that doesn't mean the South
isn't still affected by racism.

As far as your so-called examples of "northern racism" go, they are pretty
absurd themselves. I doubt you could present a single example of a
residential covenant that literally makes it "so black people can't buy
houses there", and while it wouldn't surprise me to find rules restricting
or even prohibiting basketball in alleys, you'd be hard pressed to prove

to
me that those rules are about keeping blacks out of the alleys rather than
simply keeping loud groups of young people from annoying the neighbors.
It's a pretty racist attitude you've got there to think that only black

kids
play basketball.

Your homophobic rants are even more ridiculous...I'm not even going to

waste
time responding to them.

Pete




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Old November 7th 04, 03:20 AM
Peter Duniho
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"Bill Denton" wrote in message
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"Homophobe"; the last refuge of the village idiot.


Ahh, yes. The ad hominem attack. The last refuge of the person without a
legitimate argument.

I've never heard an intelligent person use that term.


Not my fault. Plenty of intelligent people do.


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Old November 7th 04, 05:41 AM
Bill Denton
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The reason most intelligent people don't throw "homophobe" around is because
they actually know what it means, which you obviously don't. Homophobia
refers to a fear of homosexuals or prejudice toward homosexual. Go back and
take another look at my original post and tell me where I exhibited any
homophobia. If you still see it, have some of your liberal dogma drained off
and replaced with brains, and you should be able to get it.

You mentioned a black man running for governor in Virginia, and people
saying they wouldn't vote for "one of them". Well, the man's name was Doug
Wilder, and I lived in Richmond when he was running. None of my friends had
any problem voting for him, but the fact that a lot of my friends were black
might have had something to do with it!

But Governor Wilder won, so there must not have been too many people
unwilling to vote for him. And when he was inaugurated, there was a large
parade which passed right by my apartment. It was planned, but there just
happened to be three naked lesbians sitting around my living room, and when
we saw the parade the women thought it would be great fun to lean out of my
window and flash the Governor. The Governor, the State Police, everybody was
staring at my window and waving.

A few days later I was in the bar next to my apartment where the state
legislators hung out, and Governor Wilder came in. Someone introduced me to
him, and I told him that the flashing was being done from my apartment. He
was laughing big time, and he told me he was pretty excited about being
elected, but he was trying to be somewhat restrained during the parade, and
then he looked up and saw wall-to-wall titties and he was afraid of falling
out of the car. He called one of his aides over and jokingly asked if there
were any more Cabinet positions because they definitely needed me in the
administration. He then told the aide to give me a business card, I gave him
mine, and the Governor told me if I ever needed any assistance dealing with
state government I should call his aide and he would get me taken care of. A
couple of times I did call the aide about problems I was having with
governmental agencies, and he got things cleared right up.

I also used to spend a lot of time in a bar called "Babes", which was about
the largest lesbian bar in Virginia outside of the DC metro area. They
really liked having me in there and constantly comped me drinks. They liked
me because I'm a fairly large guy, I didn't hit on the customers, and I
could calmly explain things to the occasional group of straight guys who
came in and thought they had died and gone to heaven when they saw a bunch
of women shooting pool with their boobs hanging out.

I live in Chicago now, and we have a neighborhood known as "Boy's Town",
which is about the third or forth largest gay "district" in the US. I live
in a high-rise about four blocks from there. We have 14 apartments on my
floor: one apartment is occupied by a single straight woman, one is occupied
by a lesbian couple, my girlfriend and I occupy one, and the other 11 are
occupied by either single gay males or gay male couples. Additionally, about
25% of the rest of the building is occupied by gay males.

I talk to a lot of gay people and a lot of black people every day.

I was initially raised in an unprejudiced home, but when I started junior
high in Arkansas I picked up on the bigotry that most of the kids around me
possessed. But I got involved in some civil rights activities and gay rights
activities and got rid of the bias. But I did it by thinking and talking to
people, not by just sitting there and letting someone force-feed liberal
dogma to me.






"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"Bill Denton" wrote in message
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"Homophobe"; the last refuge of the village idiot.


Ahh, yes. The ad hominem attack. The last refuge of the person without a
legitimate argument.

I've never heard an intelligent person use that term.


Not my fault. Plenty of intelligent people do.




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Old November 7th 04, 11:13 AM
Bob Noel
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In article ,
"Bill Denton" wrote:

The reason most intelligent people don't throw "homophobe" around is because
they actually know what it means, which you obviously don't. Homophobia
refers to a fear of homosexuals or prejudice toward homosexual.


When did "homophobe" begin to mean "prejudice toward homosexual."
Wouldn't it have originally meant merely (irrational?) fear of
homosexuals? The prejudice part came through common (mis)use of
the word.

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Bob Noel
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Old November 7th 04, 03:35 PM
Bill Denton
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Look at: www.dictionary.com

And it's really not a descriptive word anymore; the left has turned it into
an epithet.



"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Bill Denton" wrote:

The reason most intelligent people don't throw "homophobe" around is

because
they actually know what it means, which you obviously don't. Homophobia
refers to a fear of homosexuals or prejudice toward homosexual.


When did "homophobe" begin to mean "prejudice toward homosexual."
Wouldn't it have originally meant merely (irrational?) fear of
homosexuals? The prejudice part came through common (mis)use of
the word.

--
Bob Noel



 




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