gps to measure feet?

Morgans wrote:


State plane?

UTM?

There are other coordinate systems than lat/long. A state plane picks
an arbitrary place in the state and measures in feet (or meters) from
that North and East. Similarly, Universal Transverse Mercator chops up
the earth into 3 degree zones and then makes meters north and east from
a reference point in that zone.

It's a bit more involved than that, but it's good enough for the precision
of what unassisted GPS is going to give you.

"Ron Natalie" wrote

There are other coordinate systems than lat/long. A state plane picks
an arbitrary place in the state and measures in feet (or meters) from
that North and East. Similarly, Universal Transverse Mercator chops up
the earth into 3 degree zones and then makes meters north and east from
a reference point in that zone.


Sounds like something used mainly by surveyors?
--
Jim in NC


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Sounds like something used mainly by surveyors?

In the deeds I read, surveyers measured by chains and rods. I think
they also used perches, but I have never seen a reference to one.

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Sounds like something used mainly by surveyors?

In the deeds I read, surveyers measured by chains and rods. I think
they also used perches, but I have never seen a reference to one.

all the best -- Dan Ford

The ones I have seen lately use mainly lasers and detectors. I think GPS is
used in some manner, also.
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On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 06:54:49 -0500, "Morgans"
wrote:

In the deeds I read, surveyers measured by chains and rods. I think
they also used perches, but I have never seen a reference to one.

all the best -- Dan Ford

The ones I have seen lately use mainly lasers and detectors. I think GPS is
used in some manner, also.

I meant that the survey literally recorded measurements as "three
chains, two rods from the oak tree to the other oak tree".

(I particularly like "the other oak"

One chain = 66 feet.

One rod = 16.5 feet

(How would you like to carry that chain and rod around with you all
day?)


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Cub Driver wrote:
On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 06:54:49 -0500, "Morgans"
wrote:


In the deeds I read, surveyers measured by chains and rods. I think
they also used perches, but I have never seen a reference to one.

all the best -- Dan Ford


The ones I have seen lately use mainly lasers and detectors. I think GPS is
used in some manner, also.


I meant that the survey literally recorded measurements as "three
chains, two rods from the oak tree to the other oak tree".

(I particularly like "the other oak"

One chain = 66 feet.

One rod = 16.5 feet

Just how does modern surveying equipment work? One guy holds one of
those mirrors (actually a prism) that reflects light back to the source,
independent of the angle of the mirror. The instrument head contains a
laser. Distances must be measured by angles, but how?

Just how does modern surveying equipment work? One guy holds one of those
mirrors (actually a prism) that reflects light back to the source,
independent of the angle of the mirror. The instrument head contains a
laser. Distances must be measured by angles, but how?

Akshully, it is not a prism -- it is more like a corner relfector whereby
any incident energy entereing the front is reflected back toward the source.
In case of the ranging instrument using a laser. The transmitter sends out a
discrete pulse of energy and measures the time it takes for the pulse to
return to a colocated receiver. The round-trip time is divided in half then
multiplied by a constant approximating one nano-second per foot to reveal
the slant-range distance. Angles ain't needed unless the surveyor must
calculate the horizontal distance, in which case he needs the alpha-angle
and that is done with a protractor.

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:47:56 GMT, "William W. Plummer"
wrote:

Just how does modern surveying equipment work? One guy holds one of
those mirrors (actually a prism) that reflects light back to the source,
independent of the angle of the mirror. The instrument head contains a
laser. Distances must be measured by angles, but how?

Speed of light?

all the best -- Dan Ford
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Cub Driver wrote:

(How would you like to carry that chain and rod around with you all
day?)

That's what they have apprentices for. :-)

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

Morgans wrote:
"Ron Natalie" wrote

There are other coordinate systems than lat/long. A state plane picks
an arbitrary place in the state and measures in feet (or meters) from
that North and East. Similarly, Universal Transverse Mercator chops up
the earth into 3 degree zones and then makes meters north and east from
a reference point in that zone.



Sounds like something used mainly by surveyors?

Not just surveyers. Most government and utility based stuff uses
state plane coordinates. It makes the math easier and more accurate
since the state plane (in some larger states there may be several)
is defined for a local area.