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Old November 10th 04, 02:48 PM
C J Campbell
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"Stefan" wrote in message
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C J Campbell wrote:

If you get right down to it, the only arguments against murder or theft

are
basically religious.


No. Moral, yes, but religious, no. This is not the same thing at all.


Really? Explain to me, please, the difference.


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Old November 21st 04, 10:56 PM
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Morality is doing the right thing just because you know it's the right thing
to do, not because you think some magical being is going to strike you down
from above or send you to some imaginary hell.

That's morality and it doesn't involve religion. It only involves evolution,
something we evidently have a long way to go on. Some more than others.

mike regish

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No. Moral, yes, but religious, no. This is not the same thing at all.


Really? Explain to me, please, the difference.




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Old November 21st 04, 11:01 PM
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"mike regish" wrote in message
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Morality is doing the right thing just because you know it's the right
thing to do, not because you think some magical being is going to strike
you down from above or send you to some imaginary hell.


For what it's worth, not all religious convictions are based on fear of
retribution from God either.

It's fine to say that you have moral conviction without religion, but don't
be confused about what religion is or is not. You'll need a better argument
if you want your distinction to "stick".

Pete


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Old November 22nd 04, 12:39 AM
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mike regish wrote:

Morality is doing the right thing just because you know it's the right thing
to do, not because you think some magical being is going to strike you down
from above or send you to some imaginary hell.


Who determines what the "right things" are?


That's morality and it doesn't involve religion. It only involves evolution,
something we evidently have a long way to go on. Some more than others.


Now that is funny. Morality results from evolution. Best one I've
heard in a long time.


Matt

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Old November 22nd 04, 01:15 AM
Dan Luke
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"Matt Whiting" wrote:
That's morality and it doesn't involve religion. It only involves
evolution, something we evidently have a long way to go on. Some more
than others.


Now that is funny. Morality results from evolution. Best one I've
heard in a long time.


What's funny about it?
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Dan
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Old November 22nd 04, 03:08 AM
Brooks Hagenow
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Dan Luke wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote:

That's morality and it doesn't involve religion. It only involves
evolution, something we evidently have a long way to go on. Some more
than others.


Now that is funny. Morality results from evolution. Best one I've
heard in a long time.



What's funny about it?


Depends on what kind of evolution you are talking about. Biological
evolution, then thats a good laugh. Societal evolution, maybe. But
what drives societal evolution? How about the beliefs of those with
influence. If those people are religious or had grown up with religious
influences, then maybe that also deserves a chuckle because then the
non-religious are ignorant to the fact they are living under religious law.
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Old November 22nd 04, 03:32 AM
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Yea, those early Christians were influential as hell, weren't they?



"Brooks Hagenow" wrote in message
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Dan Luke wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote:

That's morality and it doesn't involve religion. It only involves
evolution, something we evidently have a long way to go on. Some more
than others.

Now that is funny. Morality results from evolution. Best one I've
heard in a long time.



What's funny about it?


Depends on what kind of evolution you are talking about. Biological
evolution, then thats a good laugh. Societal evolution, maybe. But
what drives societal evolution? How about the beliefs of those with
influence. If those people are religious or had grown up with religious
influences, then maybe that also deserves a chuckle because then the
non-religious are ignorant to the fact they are living under religious

law.


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Old November 22nd 04, 03:33 AM
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Bill Denton wrote:

Yea, those early Christians were influential as hell, weren't they?


I did not say the Christians were funny.
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Old November 22nd 04, 03:47 AM
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"Brooks Hagenow" wrote:
Now that is funny. Morality results from evolution. Best one I've
heard in a long time.



What's funny about it?


Depends on what kind of evolution you are talking about. Biological
evolution, then thats a good laugh.


Why?

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Dan
C172RG at BFM


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Old November 22nd 04, 03:32 AM
Matt Barrow
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"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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"Matt Whiting" wrote:
That's morality and it doesn't involve religion. It only involves
evolution, something we evidently have a long way to go on. Some more
than others.


Now that is funny. Morality results from evolution. Best one I've
heard in a long time.


What's funny about it?


It's inverted...that's what's funny about it.


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Matt
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Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO


 




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