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Old November 11th 04, 05:46 PM
jls
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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No? Why is it important that society be peaceful or safe?


If you don't believe in trying to maximize human happiness, then there's
nothing important about making society peaceful and safe. Maybe you

don't
hold that belief.


If a belief in maximizing human happiness is not a religious belief, what

is
it?


Not a religious belief. You should not be trying to redefine religion,
which is based on a god or gods and is best acknowledged as founded on the
gullibility of the many and the calculations of the few.

After all, if we are nothing but sacks of chemicals, doomed in the end to
become nothing but waste heat, why should we care what happens to us or to
anything else? Nothing we do makes any difference at all if we eventually
just become random ergs scattered throughout the universe.


Not random, my moorman friend. You can leave footprints in the sands of
time, or be a lasting legacy like Charles Dickens or Henry Ford, sire
children who will in turn sire children, perhaps even contribute to the
fossil record --- like the missing link between Neanderthal and human
recently discovered, or the subhumanoid bones recently unearthed in
Indonesia.

Having read some of your scribblings, however, I am not encouraged that your
legacy will be anything more than dust.


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Old November 12th 04, 03:53 AM
Richard Hertz
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" jls" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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No? Why is it important that society be peaceful or safe?

If you don't believe in trying to maximize human happiness, then
there's
nothing important about making society peaceful and safe. Maybe you

don't
hold that belief.


If a belief in maximizing human happiness is not a religious belief, what

is
it?


Not a religious belief. You should not be trying to redefine religion,
which is based on a god or gods and is best acknowledged as founded on the
gullibility of the many and the calculations of the few.

After all, if we are nothing but sacks of chemicals, doomed in the end to
become nothing but waste heat, why should we care what happens to us or
to
anything else? Nothing we do makes any difference at all if we eventually
just become random ergs scattered throughout the universe.


Not random, my moorman friend.


Is he really a Mormon. Uh oh.


Arguing about ethics and morals and religion is probably a waste of time
here. (not specifically due to the mormonism/LDS but just in general)

For a clear statement of objective laws see Ayn Rand - probably the most
succint philosophy on this subject, but certainly not succint with her
prose!!!



You can leave footprints in the sands of
time, or be a lasting legacy like Charles Dickens or Henry Ford, sire
children who will in turn sire children, perhaps even contribute to the
fossil record --- like the missing link between Neanderthal and human
recently discovered, or the subhumanoid bones recently unearthed in
Indonesia.

Having read some of your scribblings, however, I am not encouraged that
your
legacy will be anything more than dust.




 




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