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Matt,

How do you steal something from someone who didn't own it in the first
place?


You're kidding, right?

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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Matt,

How do you steal something from someone who didn't own it in the first
place?


You're kidding, right?

Nope. How do you steal something neither owned, nor possessed?

Matt,

How do you steal something neither owned, nor possessed?


You're claiming the land now called the US was not "owned or
possessed"? You claim Native Americans somehow "don't count" because
they didn't have any ownership contracts to show? Jeeze!


--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

How do you steal something neither owned, nor possessed?


You're claiming the land now called the US was not "owned or
possessed"? You claim Native Americans somehow "don't count" because
they didn't have any ownership contracts to show? Jeeze!

Well, I don't want to put words in his mouth, but he may be coming at this
from this angle:

Native Americans, by their own beliefs, made no claim on the land, in fact
denying that it *could* be owned. It's hard to imagine "stealing" land from
people who make no claim on it.

To which I would add this: Native Americans are still here, and are a
welcome part of American society. To say that they were all killed is, in
fact, wrong.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:

How do you steal something neither owned, nor possessed?


You're claiming the land now called the US was not "owned or
possessed"? You claim Native Americans somehow "don't count" because
they didn't have any ownership contracts to show? Jeeze!


Well, I don't want to put words in his mouth, but he may be coming at this
from this angle:

Native Americans, by their own beliefs, made no claim on the land, in fact
denying that it *could* be owned. It's hard to imagine "stealing" land from
people who make no claim on it.

The Indians were in a near constant state of war with each other over
land and other issues. Read Lewis and Clarks account of their trip. The
white man comes in and is better at war and outright deception. That's
life.



To which I would add this: Native Americans are still here, and are a
welcome part of American society. To say that they were all killed is, in
fact, wrong.

Now if the Indians would wake up and get rid of those stupid
reservations they could be as successful as the rest of us.

"Newps" wrote in message
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The Indians were in a near constant state of war with each other over land
and other issues.

Yes, Native Americans (like Europeans, Asians, etc.) did fight wars among
themselves.

The white man comes in and is better at war and outright deception.
That's life.

When others attack and slaughter *us*, that's monstrous, incomprehensible
evil.

But when we do it to others--shrug, "that's life"; whether it's right or
wrong apparently isn't even worth thinking about.

Once you've internalized that double standard, you can rationalize
*anything*.

--Gary

When others attack and slaughter *us*, that's monstrous, incomprehensible
evil.

Which is why many of our ancestors came to America.

But when we do it to others--shrug, "that's life"; whether it's right or
wrong apparently isn't even worth thinking about.

"We" didn't do anything to the Indians -- and no amount of hand-wringing is
going to change their fate, or our lack of guilt.

I'm sure my great-great-great grandfather would have preferred staying in
Germany, but sometimes life sucks.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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Matt,

How do you steal something neither owned, nor possessed?


You're claiming the land now called the US was not "owned or
possessed"? You claim Native Americans somehow "don't count" because
they didn't have any ownership contracts to show? Jeeze!


--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Thomas, you're arguing with nuts who believe their titles are from God, who,
filled with the holy spirit, believe that ownership of this continent, and
perhaps even world domination, is manifest destiny ordained by gawd
awlmighty.

But be my guest, go ahead and argue with them. It's good theater worth
more than a few chuckles. Of course,they should be sentenced to community
service as well as reading all those treaties with the Indians the USA
violated or declared to be null and void, again because of the express will
of gawd.

" jls" wrote in message
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"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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Matt,

How do you steal something neither owned, nor possessed?


You're claiming the land now called the US was not "owned or
possessed"? You claim Native Americans somehow "don't count" because
they didn't have any ownership contracts to show? Jeeze!


--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Thomas, you're arguing with nuts who believe their titles are from God,
who,
filled with the holy spirit, believe that ownership of this continent, and
perhaps even world domination, is manifest destiny ordained by gawd
awlmighty.

As an atheist, I find that to be a ROTFLMAO remark.


But be my guest, go ahead and argue with them. It's good theater worth
more than a few chuckles. Of course,they should be sentenced to
community
service as well as reading all those treaties with the Indians the USA
violated or declared to be null and void, again because of the express
will
of gawd.

So, nutbar, want to shove your foot even deeper into your mouth?
--
Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

Thomas, you're arguing with nuts who believe their titles are from God,
who,
filled with the holy spirit, believe that ownership of this continent,
and
perhaps even world domination, is manifest destiny ordained by gawd
awlmighty.

As an atheist, I find that to be a ROTFLMAO remark.

And as a come-and-go agnostic, I'm right there with ya!

In my book, "God's will" wouldn't even be mentioned as justification for
America's existence.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"