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Old November 18th 04, 01:40 PM
jls
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"leslie" wrote in message
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Matt Barrow ) wrote:
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: Not only didn't they have ownership contracts, they had no concept of
: land ownership at all.
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Some had the concept of owning people...

http://www.coax.net/people/lwf/slave_rv.htm
CHEROKEE SLAVE REVOLT OF 1842


The poorly written piece at this link without footnotes or source citations
tells more than you read. It tells that the slavery was learned by
half-Indian offspring of white *christian* slaveholders, who obviously took
their justifications for slavery from the Old and New Testaments of the Holy
Bible. The Bible is clear that slavery is approved. The slave is
admonished in both testaments to behave himself and be docile or be lashed
or killed.

So what is the purpose of this post, to demonize all Indians, including
Sioux and Pawnee, 200 years after the fact of stealing their lands? Some
of the white settlers attempted to enslave Indians but found it was about as
easy as herding cats.


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Old November 18th 04, 02:57 PM
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So what is the purpose of this post, to demonize all Indians, including
Sioux and Pawnee, 200 years after the fact of stealing their lands?


No one is trying to demonize Indians. (How typical of the PC police to
interpret a counterpoint as an attack.)

The point (for those who refuse to see it) is that the American Indians lost
the wars, as so many have before (and since), and it's time for them to
either become integrated in American society, or shut the hell up.

Cuz no amount of whining is going to change their fate.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
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www.AlexisParkInn.com
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Old November 18th 04, 04:28 PM
Thomas Borchert
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Jay,

it's time for them to
either become integrated in American society, or shut the hell up.


"Them" are gone. "Them" are dead. That's the point.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

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Old November 18th 04, 09:05 PM
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"Them" are gone. "Them" are dead. That's the point.

That would come as quite a shock to the 2.8 million Americans who identified
themselves as "Native American" in the most recent census.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
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www.AlexisParkInn.com
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Old November 19th 04, 01:02 AM
Matt Barrow
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:F88nd.50084$V41.45850@attbi_s52...
"Them" are gone. "Them" are dead. That's the point.


That would come as quite a shock to the 2.8 million Americans who

identified
themselves as "Native American" in the most recent census.


And that the best estimates is that the peak North American aborigine
population prior to the arrival of the white man on North America is around
300,000, they've done pretty well since then, with a 900% increase.

If you can find a copy, read "The Indian Myths" by Robert Hendrick, which
dispels so many popular notions of the American Indian culture, such as
being ecologically pure, preserving wildlife, etc.

Up until 1800, life expectancy for American Indians was about the late 30's
for males and late 20's for females. Between tribal wars and diseases
(dysentery is believed to have killed more Indians by far than the white man
could have hoped to) life was short, brutal and harsh. Of course, Rousseau
thought that was a great life style.


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Matt
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Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO



 




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