Leaving the community

"Jay Honeck" wrote:
Man, I'm with Jim on this one. I smoked 2.5 packs of Marlboros a day
for years, and quit cold-turkey in 1986, while watching my
father-in-law die a horrible death due to lung cancer.

Man, I punched walls till my knuckles bled, and was just a total
******* to be around. After three days the physical symptoms were
gone, but the psychological addiction persisted for many years.

Ditto. I smoked from age 13 to 30; quitting was one of the toughest
things I've ever done.

To this day, I still love the THOUGHT of having a smoke --

Not I. Do you still have "the smoking dream?" The one where you're
smoking again and realize you've re-addicted yourself? Aaaagghhh!

although I really can't stand the smell anymore, and being in a smoky
bar gives me a sore throat and sticky eyes...

Ditto again. It took about two years for cigarette smoke to stop
smelling delicious to me.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

in article , Dan Luke at
wrote on 11/21/04 8:16 AM:


"Jay Honeck" wrote:
Man, I'm with Jim on this one. I smoked 2.5 packs of Marlboros a day
for years, and quit cold-turkey in 1986, while watching my
father-in-law die a horrible death due to lung cancer.

Man, I punched walls till my knuckles bled, and was just a total
******* to be around. After three days the physical symptoms were
gone, but the psychological addiction persisted for many years.

Ditto. I smoked from age 13 to 30; quitting was one of the toughest
things I've ever done.

To this day, I still love the THOUGHT of having a smoke --

Not I. Do you still have "the smoking dream?" The one where you're
smoking again and realize you've re-addicted yourself? Aaaagghhh!

Yeah, but waking up and realizing that you haven't really backslid is always
a relief.

Yeah, but waking up and realizing that you haven't really backslid is
always
a relief.

Truly.

Morality is doing the right thing just because you know it's the right thing
to do, not because you think some magical being is going to strike you down
from above or send you to some imaginary hell.

That's morality and it doesn't involve religion. It only involves evolution,
something we evidently have a long way to go on. Some more than others.

mike regish

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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No. Moral, yes, but religious, no. This is not the same thing at all.

Really? Explain to me, please, the difference.

"mike regish" wrote in message
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Morality is doing the right thing just because you know it's the right
thing to do, not because you think some magical being is going to strike
you down from above or send you to some imaginary hell.

For what it's worth, not all religious convictions are based on fear of
retribution from God either.

It's fine to say that you have moral conviction without religion, but don't
be confused about what religion is or is not. You'll need a better argument
if you want your distinction to "stick".

Pete

Not I. Do you still have "the smoking dream?" The one where you're
smoking again and realize you've re-addicted yourself? Aaaagghhh!

Rarely. But I did for years!

That's funny -- I thought I was the only one that had that stupid dream!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

mike regish wrote:

Morality is doing the right thing just because you know it's the right thing
to do, not because you think some magical being is going to strike you down
from above or send you to some imaginary hell.

Who determines what the "right things" are?


That's morality and it doesn't involve religion. It only involves evolution,
something we evidently have a long way to go on. Some more than others.

Now that is funny. Morality results from evolution. Best one I've
heard in a long time.


Matt

"Matt Whiting" wrote:
That's morality and it doesn't involve religion. It only involves
evolution, something we evidently have a long way to go on. Some more
than others.

Now that is funny. Morality results from evolution. Best one I've
heard in a long time.

What's funny about it?
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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mike regish wrote:

Morality is doing the right thing just because you know it's the right
thing to do, not because you think some magical being is going to strike
you down from above or send you to some imaginary hell.

Who determines what the "right things" are?

In my case, I do. Duh.


That's morality and it doesn't involve religion. It only involves
evolution, something we evidently have a long way to go on. Some more
than others.

Now that is funny. Morality results from evolution. Best one I've heard
in a long time.

Learning right from wrong comes from evolution. Or better said, learning
better ways of doing things...like talking rather than fighting.

mike regish

Yep.

mike

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So very true.

The world is overrunning with immoral religious types.