Leaving the community

I hate to disagree with you because you are obviously the most knowledgeable
person involved in this conversation and I have learned a great deal from
your posts and gotten muh more food for thought, but latest scientific
estimates put the universe at something like 12 to 15 billion years old.

Just a minor correction, but your point is just as valid regardless. I've
always gotten a kick out of that whole lump of clay and a rib thing myself.
If it wasn't so scary, it would actually be funny what some otherwise
intelligent people believe.

mike regish

wrote in message
...


Would you be referring to the kind of difference between the fact that
the universe is hundreds of billions of years old, and the claim of
born-agains that it is only 12,000 years old, and started with two
nudists in a garden conversing with a talking snake?

Those kinds of claims and factrs?

Or some other kind of claims and facts?

mike regish wrote:

I hate to disagree with you because you are obviously the most knowledgeable
person involved in this conversation and I have learned a great deal from
your posts and gotten muh more food for thought, but latest scientific
estimates put the universe at something like 12 to 15 billion years old.

Just a minor correction, but your point is just as valid regardless. I've
always gotten a kick out of that whole lump of clay and a rib thing myself.
If it wasn't so scary, it would actually be funny what some otherwise
intelligent people believe.

I agree. It is almost as funny as believing that the universe started
from a big bang (where did the stuff for the big bang come from?) and
the intelligent beings evolved from random processes. That is really
funny, but a fair number of otherwise intelligent people believe it.

Matt

Well, most physicists agree that there is no such thing as "before" the big
bang since time can't exist without space. But while they are able to say "I
don't know...yet." about what the singularity was or how it was, you have
all the answers, don't you. If you need simple explanations to wrap your
simple mind around, good for you. I'm glad you can admit your intellectual
limitations. Some people prefer evidence over faith. It's a lot harder to
do, but to some it's worth it.

As far as people believing in evolution and the big bang, believe it or not,
there is abundant evidence for both. But then, I keep forgetting that
evidence and facts just keep muddling up your simple mind. Sorry. I won't
try to confuse you with knowledge again.

You just keep that enlightened smile on your face and everything will be
alright. OK Matt? Go to sleep now. You must be very tired after such a busy
day.

mike

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
mike regish wrote:

I hate to disagree with you because you are obviously the most
knowledgeable person involved in this conversation and I have learned a
great deal from your posts and gotten muh more food for thought, but
latest scientific estimates put the universe at something like 12 to 15
billion years old.

Just a minor correction, but your point is just as valid regardless. I've
always gotten a kick out of that whole lump of clay and a rib thing
myself. If it wasn't so scary, it would actually be funny what some
otherwise intelligent people believe.

I agree. It is almost as funny as believing that the universe started
from a big bang (where did the stuff for the big bang come from?) and the
intelligent beings evolved from random processes. That is really funny,
but a fair number of otherwise intelligent people believe it.

Matt

mike regish wrote:
Well, most physicists agree that there is no such thing as "before" the big
bang since time can't exist without space. But while they are able to say "I
don't know...yet." about what the singularity was or how it was, you have
all the answers, don't you. If you need simple explanations to wrap your
simple mind around, good for you. I'm glad you can admit your intellectual
limitations. Some people prefer evidence over faith. It's a lot harder to
do, but to some it's worth it.

Singularity. A nice sophisticated way to say "we don't know." There
are a lot of things I don't know and that the Bible doesn't explain, but
there is a lot it does explain as well.


As far as people believing in evolution and the big bang, believe it or not,
there is abundant evidence for both. But then, I keep forgetting that
evidence and facts just keep muddling up your simple mind. Sorry. I won't
try to confuse you with knowledge again.

And there is a lot of evidence, archeological and otherwise, that
supports the accounts in the Bible ... and more is discovered every day.


You just keep that enlightened smile on your face and everything will be
alright. OK Matt? Go to sleep now. You must be very tired after such a busy
day.

Actually, discussion with you aren't taxing at all...


Matt