TSA Alien training/citizenship validation rule

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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Tscottme,

pilots staying at home and pressuring
their governments to ease cost/access to flight training

Pilots? Pressuring governments? What world do you live in? That doesn't
even
work in the US.



Imagine if Germany and Japan's choice
was to go without pilots or make reasonable accomodations to permit
adequate
flight training at home.


Nobody needs GA pilots. The training of professional pilots in Germany and
Japan is well established - and set up completely independent of GA.


Bull****...

Here in Arizona, you seemingly can't swing an A&P by his extension cord
without hitting a Piper with the blue and yellow of Lufthansa on it.

The "Boys (and Girls) From Berlin" are major participants in the GA system
of the western United States.

So too, I believe, are pilots training for SAS (the airline, not the British
Military.)

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ

Jay Beckman wrote:

Here in Arizona, you seemingly can't swing an A&P by his extension cord
without hitting a Piper with the blue and yellow of Lufthansa on it.

The "Boys (and Girls) From Berlin" are major participants in the GA system
of the western United States.

So too, I believe, are pilots training for SAS (the airline, not the British
Military.)


and the pilots of JAL over in Napa; but I somehow don't think they
will be much affected by the new rules (all taken care of by their
employers, they won't even know it); besides, I wouldn't be
surprised if there weren't any exemption in place for such training
arrangements in the first place.

--Sylvain

"Sylvain" wrote in message
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Jay Beckman wrote:

Here in Arizona, you seemingly can't swing an A&P by his extension cord
without hitting a Piper with the blue and yellow of Lufthansa on it.

The "Boys (and Girls) From Berlin" are major participants in the GA
system of the western United States.

So too, I believe, are pilots training for SAS (the airline, not the
British Military.)


and the pilots of JAL over in Napa; but I somehow don't think they
will be much affected by the new rules (all taken care of by their
employers, they won't even know it); besides, I wouldn't be
surprised if there weren't any exemption in place for such training
arrangements in the first place.

--Sylvain

Interesting point...

However, the two times that I've been able to say hello to any of the
Lufthansa folks, the IP flying with them said they were just "run of the
mill" freelance CFIs.

So honestly, I'm not sure what the employment situation is for these
instructors or for the contracted operations with whom the "ab initio"
pilots are flying.

Jay B

Jay wrote :
So honestly, I'm not sure what the employment situation is for these
instructors or for the contracted operations with whom the "ab initio"

pilots are flying.

I've known a few instructors that worked for the Lufthansa training
centers in Arizona. They were basically freelance CFIs contracting
with the schools. I imagine that they will have to meet the same
requirements as any other instructor that teaches foreign students, but
my guess is that the school will take care of the bulk of the paperwork
and reporting requirements for them. It is, after all, a very large
high-dollar organization (have you seen their private, towered airport
in Mobile, AZ?).

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

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Jay wrote :
So honestly, I'm not sure what the employment situation is for these
instructors or for the contracted operations with whom the "ab initio"

pilots are flying.

I've known a few instructors that worked for the Lufthansa training
centers in Arizona. They were basically freelance CFIs contracting
with the schools. I imagine that they will have to meet the same
requirements as any other instructor that teaches foreign students, but
my guess is that the school will take care of the bulk of the paperwork
and reporting requirements for them. It is, after all, a very large
high-dollar organization (have you seen their private, towered airport
in Mobile, AZ?).

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)


Hi John,

Yup, I've seen it while on the way to Yuma via the Gila Bend VORTAC.

Hope you had a great Christmas!

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ

and the pilots of JAL over in Napa; but I somehow don't think they
will be much affected by the new rules (all taken care of by their

Or the Air China ones flying out of Ryan

Rob

Jay,

Here in Arizona, you seemingly can't swing an A&P by his extension cord
without hitting a Piper with the blue and yellow of Lufthansa on it.


Exactly my point. They have set up a school outside Germany. And no GA in
Germany is needed - at all. Same for JAL. So how, pray, tell, would a GA
pilot in Germany explain to his government that GA in Germany is needed as
a birthplace for future LH pilots?

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)