(sorta OT) Free Ham Radio Course

Of course it's legal. It just has to be separate from any comm radio
gear installed in the plane. Of course, this is only true in an
experimental unless a 337 is completed and approved. But, since this is
a homebuilt newsgroup, no 337 required.

Right?

On a second note, handheld radio equipment solves all the above
mentioned problems...

Scott
N0EDV

PS...Sorry. Couldn't resist starting that war...



RST Engineering wrote:


(Besides, just think of the hewmongous flame wars we could get into by
arguing whether it is or is not legal for a ham to install a ham radio in
their very own airplane {;-) )

Denny - K8DO - and Fat Albert the Apache...
One of my instrument instructors from way back had a bug about
carefully decoding each VOR and marker beacon and writing them down...
Of course, he had to copy down the dots and dashes then look each
letter up... By the time he did this we were usually established on the
glide slope... He would invariably challenge me with, "I didn't see you
write it down!" pugnacious glare
I invariably replied, "Didn't have to. I hear the morse code just like
I hear you"
Of course he never believed me and was always dialing up some VOR,
letting the identifier run through the code once, then he would quickly
turn off the audio and ask me what the letters were... I would tell
him... Then he would turn the audio back up and laboriously copy the
dots and dashes onto paper and look them up... Then he would glare at
me and pout for the rest of the ride...

Let it be said that you can fairly quickly learn the code well enough
to pass the 5 wpm ham test, but you really need to spend a few months
on the air working people on CW before you'll have internalized the
code well enough to reliably indentify VORs under pressure.

Don, NR7X

Don Tuite wrote:
Let it be said that you can fairly quickly learn the code well enough
to pass the 5 wpm ham test, but you really need to spend a few months
on the air working people on CW before you'll have internalized the
code well enough to reliably indentify VORs under pressure.


I disagree. I am a walking counterexample.

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:42:01 -0500, Dave Butler wrote:

Don Tuite wrote:
Let it be said that you can fairly quickly learn the code well enough
to pass the 5 wpm ham test, but you really need to spend a few months
on the air working people on CW before you'll have internalized the
code well enough to reliably indentify VORs under pressure.


I disagree. I am a walking counterexample.

Sorry. I left off the YMMV.

Don

Don Tuite wrote:

Let it be said that you can fairly quickly learn the code well enough
to pass the 5 wpm ham test, but you really need to spend a few months
on the air working people on CW before you'll have internalized the
code well enough to reliably indentify VORs under pressure.

What is the transmission rate of the VOR ID?

Matt

"Scott" wrote in message
...
Of course it's legal. It just has to be separate from any comm radio
gear installed in the plane. Of course, this is only true in an
experimental unless a 337 is completed and approved. But, since this is
a homebuilt newsgroup, no 337 required.

Right?

On a second note, handheld radio equipment solves all the above
mentioned problems...

Scott
N0EDV

Sailplane pilots, hang glider pilots, and paraglider pilots have all
discovered the use of 2 meter ham radios to use for chatting with others and
not congesting the air to air frequencies. They use hand held units,
including one from Vertex Standard that is VHF aircraft, VOR navigation, and
2 meter ham all in one tiny hand held package. I understand that they are
legal to use in airborne aircraft with a tech license.

One of the advantages to using the 2 meter radios is that if one lands out
in the boonies, away from cell towers and other aircraft traffic, one can
use repeaters installed on mountain tops to send their distress message to
distant receivers. I further understand that these repeaters are manned at
all times, which can be a big help in an emergency.

I am not a ham and am only posting what I know second hand. Please correct
me if I have made mistakes.

I don't think this thread is too far off topic and I, for one, appreciate
all that Jim Weir has done over the years to help keep flying less costly
for those of us not born with silver spoons in our mouths.

I'll look at the study site myself.
-Bob Korves

Bob,

Are 2 meter rigs really common in California/Nevada base sailplane? I have
only been involved in the sport for about 10 years. I believe that I am the
only local pilot that is a Ham. Most of the hang glider pilots I know use 2
meters to keep in contact with their crews. This requires both the pilot
and chase a crew member to have a "ticket."

On occasion when flying in mountain regions of Idaho without cell phone
coverage I have carried my 2 meter hand-held.

What percentage of the sailplane pilots flying in the mountains and deserts
of California and Nevada are hams?

Please don't think that I am challenging your experience. I am simply
curious about what frequencies to use and how much traffic I will hear when
I participate in the annual trek to Austin, NV this summer.

Wayne
W7ADK
Schreder HP-14 (N990) "6F"
http://www.soaridaho.com/

"Bob Korves" bkorves@winfirstDECIMALcom wrote in message
...
Sailplane pilots, hang glider pilots, and paraglider pilots have all
discovered the use of 2 meter ham radios to use for chatting with others
and
not congesting the air to air frequencies. They use hand held units,
including one from Vertex Standard that is VHF aircraft, VOR navigation,
and
2 meter ham all in one tiny hand held package. I understand that they are
legal to use in airborne aircraft with a tech license.

One of the advantages to using the 2 meter radios is that if one lands out
in the boonies, away from cell towers and other aircraft traffic, one can
use repeaters installed on mountain tops to send their distress message to
distant receivers. I further understand that these repeaters are manned
at
all times, which can be a big help in an emergency.

I am not a ham and am only posting what I know second hand. Please
correct
me if I have made mistakes.

I don't think this thread is too far off topic and I, for one, appreciate
all that Jim Weir has done over the years to help keep flying less costly
for those of us not born with silver spoons in our mouths.

I'll look at the study site myself.
-Bob Korves