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![]() "Gary Drescher" wrote in message ... "Chip Jones" wrote in message ink.net... "Gary Drescher" wrote in message ... "Chip Jones" wrote in message k.net... The method madated by the FAA ala a DOT 49 CFR Part 40 random urine drug test is called a GC/MS drug test. GC/MS drug testing has virtually *no* false positives... You can read all about it he http://www.aviationmedicine.com/drugtest.htm Nothing at that web page states that the test has a low false-positive rate. The false-positive rate isn't even inherent in a test itself. Specificity is an inherent property of a test--but even an excellent test with very high specificity can still have an arbitrarily high false-positive rate if applied to a population in which positive examples are sufficiently rare. (The web page says nothing about the test's specificity either, by the way.) This is an issue that I can neither defend or attack, because I can't quantify in my mind what an "arbitrarily high" false positive rate would be in a test group like commercial aviators, where positive examples are, I agree, very rare. Well, here are some illustrative numbers to help envision how an accurate test could produce an arbitrarily high false-positive rate. Suppose the test has a specificity of 99% and also a sensitivity of 99%. Specificity refers to the proportion of negative examples that correctly test negative; sensitivity is the proportion of positive examples that correctly test positive. Now, suppose you apply this very accurate test to a population of one million, among whom there are 1,000 positive examples. Among the 1,000 positive examples, about 990 will test positive, and about 10 will test negative. Among the 999,000 negative examples, about 989,010 will test negative, and about 9,900 will test positive. Thus, among the 10,890 who test positive, 990 are actually positive examples, and 9,900 are actually negative examples. Thus, the false-positive rate (the proportion of the positive test results that are false) is about 90.9%. Despite the use of an accurate test (99% sensitivity and specificity), more than 90% of those who test positive will actually be negative. Here's one from NIDA, where the false positive rate in GC/MS drug testing for THC was 0.3 to 3.1%, and this was before any MRO action as per the DOT CFR. Again, the false-positive rate *is not a function of just the accuracy of the test*. A highly accurate test (high sensitivity and specificity) might have an arbitrarily high or arbitrarily low false-positive rate, depending on the proportion of actual positive and negative examples in the tested population. Thus, a test's false-positive rate applied to one population tells you nothing about the same test's false-positive rate applied to a different population. Thanks Gary, that's clearer to me now. Chip, ZTL |
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