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Old January 30th 05, 12:11 AM
Legrande Harris
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Wouldn't wearing polarized sunglasses just about completely eliminate
the problem of lasers aimed at pilots eyes? The polarization should
completely stop the laser light from coming through the glasses.
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Old January 29th 05, 10:12 PM
10Squared
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Legrande Harris wrote:

Wouldn't wearing polarized sunglasses just about completely eliminate
the problem of lasers aimed at pilots eyes? The polarization should
completely stop the laser light from coming through the glasses.


Using an LED laser pointer and a pair of polarized glasses I tested your
idea. There is attenuation of the beam that is dependent on the orientation
of the pointer. So, the attenuation depends on how the person on the other
end is holding the pointer.
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Old January 30th 05, 02:04 AM
Larry Dighera
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 22:12:40 +0000, 10Squared
wrote in ::

Legrande Harris wrote:

Wouldn't wearing polarized sunglasses just about completely eliminate
the problem of lasers aimed at pilots eyes? The polarization should
completely stop the laser light from coming through the glasses.


Using an LED laser pointer and a pair of polarized glasses I tested your
idea. There is attenuation of the beam that is dependent on the orientation
of the pointer. So, the attenuation depends on how the person on the other
end is holding the pointer.


If the aircraft windscreen were silvered so that it would be
reflective perhaps it would help reduce the laser's effect.

But these methods are going to reduce the pilot's visual acuity at
night.
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Old January 29th 05, 10:12 PM
10Squared
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Legrande Harris wrote:

Wouldn't wearing polarized sunglasses just about completely eliminate
the problem of lasers aimed at pilots eyes? The polarization should
completely stop the laser light from coming through the glasses.


Using an LED laser pointer and a pair of polarized glasses I tested your
idea. There is attenuation of the beam that is dependent on the orientation
of the pointer. So, the attenuation depends on how the person on the other
end is holding the pointer.
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Old January 30th 05, 03:57 PM
Andrew Sarangan
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What exactly is an LED Laser pointer? It is an LED or a laser; it can't be
both.

Not all lasers are polarized. You can also get unpolarized laser emission.



10Squared wrote in
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Legrande Harris wrote:

Wouldn't wearing polarized sunglasses just about completely eliminate
the problem of lasers aimed at pilots eyes? The polarization should
completely stop the laser light from coming through the glasses.


Using an LED laser pointer and a pair of polarized glasses I tested
your idea. There is attenuation of the beam that is dependent on the
orientation of the pointer. So, the attenuation depends on how the
person on the other end is holding the pointer.


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Old January 31st 05, 05:29 PM
Legrande Harris
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Andrew Sarangan wrote:

Not all lasers are polarized. You can also get unpolarized laser emission.


Yes, but aren't the upolarized lasers quite weak? My only real
experience with lasers was messing around with them in college physics
classes and all the different laser beams could be blocked quite easily
with polarized glass.

Obviously if the laser is strong enough to burn through the glass then
it won't work, but those lasers are not readily available

LG
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Old January 31st 05, 07:06 PM
AES
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IF the laser is (linearly) polarized to a fairly high degree (not too
difficult in practice),

and IF the pilot is wearing polarized sunglasses (readily available),

and IF the laser is physically rotated (about its long axis) so that its
direction of polarization exactly matches the linear polarization that
is blocked by the polarized sunglasses (has to be done carefully and
deliberately, to within a few degrees),

and IF there is no deliberate or accidental conversion of the laser
beam's polarization between the laser and the sunglasses (e.g.,
deliberate conversion to circular polarization, effects of scattering,
birefringence in stressed windshield),

THEN only a small amount of the laser light will get through.

Rotate the laser about its axis by 45 degrees in either direction and
half the light will get through (which in terms of "dazzle" effects
means most of it gets through). Between 45 and 135 degree rotation in
either direction, more than half and up to 100% gets through.

The polarization direction of ordinary polarized sunglasses is set in a
certain direction because that's best for minimizing glare from
shallow-angle reflections. Any minimally competent bad guy could
therefore defeat their protection.

[And just for side interest, the LCD screen on my expensive 21" Sun
monitor is polarized exactly wrong, such that you simply can't use it
while wearing polarized sunglasses. The Sun engineers who designed it
knew computers, but not optics. Most laptop screens are polarized at 45
degrees; if you wear polarized sunglasses while using them you block
half the light, which your eye or brain adapts to and you don't even
notice it. Try tilting your head left and right while doing this some
time. I've observed that some of the credit card and signature screens
in California 7/11's also seem to be polarized exactly wrong for
polarized sunglasses.]
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Old January 31st 05, 05:12 PM
Legrande Harris
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In article ,
10Squared wrote:

Legrande Harris wrote:

Wouldn't wearing polarized sunglasses just about completely eliminate
the problem of lasers aimed at pilots eyes? The polarization should
completely stop the laser light from coming through the glasses.


Using an LED laser pointer and a pair of polarized glasses I tested your
idea. There is attenuation of the beam that is dependent on the orientation
of the pointer. So, the attenuation depends on how the person on the other
end is holding the pointer.


How precisely does the pointer have to be aligned? If it is off by 5
degrees does the laser get through?
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Old January 31st 05, 04:39 PM
10Squared
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Legrande Harris wrote:

In article ,
10Squared wrote:

Legrande Harris wrote:

Wouldn't wearing polarized sunglasses just about completely eliminate
the problem of lasers aimed at pilots eyes? The polarization should
completely stop the laser light from coming through the glasses.


Using an LED laser pointer and a pair of polarized glasses I tested your
idea. There is attenuation of the beam that is dependent on the
orientation of the pointer. So, the attenuation depends on how the person
on the other end is holding the pointer.


How precisely does the pointer have to be aligned? If it is off by 5
degrees does the laser get through?


Yes, the attenuation was proportional to the amount of rotation from 0-90
degrees. In short, it's nothing you could count on to protect you.
 




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