CFIs: THE IMPORTANCE OF LANGUAGE!

Perhaps I don't understand your statement? I'm in the older generation,
draw the max social security, and antsy to continue working. I do not
countenance sloppy work, or sloppy writing. In many cases its just
being lazy and I won't stand for that either. Makes me real unpopular
with some who think I'm just an old a$$hole with an uptight attitude.
THAT is the problem with too many these days in my opinion. I
continually ask what ever happened to the good old solid work ethic.
Why is it we see so many foreigners coming to the USA and excelling in
school? And many of them can't even speak English! In keeping with the
aviation theme may I add....when I taught pilots for All Nippon Airways
and Japan Airlines, they were insatiable in their search for more
information on the aircraft, techniques, regulations, and all the while
learning to speak English. If they did less than 98 on the writtens
they were ready to commit sepuku!
My own kids disappoint me when I ask what I think are simple questions
about the world today and they don't have a clue where, what, or why
unless its in their own personal area of interest. Seems like society
in general is just accepting this dumbing down of America. I refuse to
without squawking like hell and making my feelings known. Won't accept
any less than high standards of the pilots I choose to fly with either
anymore than I expect them to expect less than excellence from me.
So THERE!!! Hrrruuuummmmpppphhhhh
Ol Shy & Bashful

wrote in message
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THAT is the problem with too many these days in my opinion. I
continually ask what ever happened to the good old solid work ethic.
Why is it we see so many foreigners coming to the USA and
excelling in school? And many of them can't even speak English!

Recently I came upon an assignment I was marking, where the
student wrote, "Third world countries have less luxuries". I
commented on that sentence to another class, and only my ESL
student knew what was wrong with the sentence. What's worse,
one of my colleagues, and English teacher, didn't notice anything
wrong with it either (!)

So THERE!!! Hrrruuuummmmpppphhhhh

"You can say that two times!" (Short Circuit)

--
Jeff Shirton jshirton at cogeco dot
ca

Keep thy airspeed up, less the earth come from below
and smite thee. - William Kershner
Challenge me (Theophilus) for a game of chess at Chessworld.net!

Either English construction is different in Canada or your sentence below
could use some smithing. I don't know what an "and English teacher" is.

Jim


"Jeff Shirton" wrote in message
...

What's worse,
one of my colleagues, and English teacher, didn't notice anything
wrong with it either.

"RST Engineering" wrote in message
...

Either English construction is different in Canada or your sentence below
could use some smithing. I don't know what an "and English teacher" is.

Do you even know what a "typo" is?

In contrast, perhaps you could explain "smithing", as the topic of
discussion has nothing to do with metal-working.

Have a nice day... g

Jim

--
Jeff Shirton jshirton at cogeco dot
ca

Keep thy airspeed up, less the earth come from below
and smite thee. - William Kershner
Challenge me (Theophilus) for a game of chess at Chessworld.net!

Jeff Shirton wrote:
"RST Engineering" wrote in message
...

Either English construction is different in Canada or your sentence
below could use some smithing. I don't know what an "and English
teacher" is.

Do you even know what a "typo" is?

In contrast, perhaps you could explain "smithing", as the topic of
discussion has nothing to do with metal-working.

From Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary:

smith: 2: MAKER -- often used in combination gunsmith tunesmith

They even have an entry under "wordsmith", so I think Jim's use was
justified and understandable.

Honestly though, I was hesitant to jump into this thread at all because
of exactly the possibility you mention above--chastising someone for
bad grammar when it was really just a typo.
:
Jim Rosinski

in article , Jeff Shirton at
wrote on 1/30/05 2:33 PM:

"RST Engineering" wrote in message
...

Either English construction is different in Canada or your sentence below
could use some smithing. I don't know what an "and English teacher" is.

Do you even know what a "typo" is?

In contrast, perhaps you could explain "smithing", as the topic of
discussion has nothing to do with metal-working.

Have a nice day... g

Speaking of typos, did you know that the quote from William Kershner in your
sig contains one?

(Sorry, I just had to join in this fun little game of pointing out other
people's errors.)

Either English construction is different in Canada or your sentence below
could use some smithing. I don't know what an "and English teacher" is.

Do you even know what a "typo" is?

Of course I do. Even teaching electronics technology, my students get a
point lopped off for each grammar or spelling error. I do it day in and day
out and have done so for 25 years. Considering that the original post had
to do with students being penalized for sloppy work, I thought it quite
appropriate.


In contrast, perhaps you could explain "smithing", as the topic of
discussion has nothing to do with metal-working.

As others have pointed out, "smithing" has no direct connection to metal
working. It is a generic term used to denote a skill in a particular area,
in this case, grammarsmithing, a subset of wordsmithing.


Have a nice day... g

I always do. You too. By the way, the quote below is "... LEST the earth
come from below... ."

{;-)

Jim



Keep thy airspeed up, less the earth come from below
and smite thee. - William Kershner
Challenge me (Theophilus) for a game of chess at Chessworld.net!

wrote:

I do not
countenance sloppy work, or sloppy writing. In many cases its just
being lazy and I won't stand for that either. Makes me real unpopular

Normally I wouldn't point out an error this minor, but considering the
nature of the topic and the fact that the same error occurs at least
twice in your post I thought it worthwhile. The contraction of "it is"
to "it's" requires an apostrophe. The string "its" indicates
posession, which from context above is not what you mean.
:
Jim Rosinski

On 30 Jan 2005 13:57:34 -0800, "jim rosinski"
wrote:

wrote:

I do not
countenance sloppy work, or sloppy writing. In many cases its just
being lazy and I won't stand for that either. Makes me real unpopular

Normally I wouldn't point out an error this minor, but considering the
nature of the topic and the fact that the same error occurs at least
twice in your post I thought it worthwhile. The contraction of "it is"
to "it's" requires an apostrophe. The string "its" indicates
posession, which from context above is not what you mean.
:
Jim Rosinski

I hesitate to point out a flaw for fear of falling victim to this
myself - but - in the above, you have managed to mangle the word
"possession".

Better luck next time.

Klein

Klein wrote:

I hesitate to point out a flaw for fear of falling victim to this
myself - but - in the above, you have managed to mangle the word
"possession".

Guilty as charged. But I think misspellings that don't confuse the
reader are less serious than grammar errors that do, like the "lose"
vs. "loose" thing, or "its" vs. "it's" where actual meaning is changed.

Better luck next time.
:
Is that level of snideness really appropriate here?

Jim Rosinski