BOHICA! Weiner's Bill to Restrict GA

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On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 12:59:36 -0400, "W P Dixon"
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If the church tells us what marriage "WILL BE" is
that not establishing religion..

Yes, and our constitution prohibits this country from passing it AS
LAW.

Unfortunately, our Constitution is not self-limiting. That is, if we pass
an amendment which makes the US a theocracy, a theocracy it will be.

The only real protection we have is that the threshold for passing an
amendment is set relatively high.

- Andrew

"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
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Unfortunately, our Constitution is not self-limiting. That is, if we pass
an amendment which makes the US a theocracy, a theocracy it will be.

The only real protection we have is that the threshold for passing an
amendment is set relatively high.


Doesn't matter. We can just ignore the Constitution or declare it to mean
something other than what it clearly states.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only
exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the
public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the
candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the
result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed
by a dictatorship.
The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred
years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from
bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from
courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to
selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy,
from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage. "

Alexander Tyler - Circa 1780 - discussing the fall of the Athenian
Democracy.



I'd say we're about at the complacent stage.....



jf

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
k.net...

"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
online.com...

Unfortunately, our Constitution is not self-limiting. That is, if we
pass
an amendment which makes the US a theocracy, a theocracy it will be.

The only real protection we have is that the threshold for passing an
amendment is set relatively high.


Doesn't matter. We can just ignore the Constitution or declare it to mean
something other than what it clearly states.

"Jeff Franks" wrote in message
...
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only
exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from
the
public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the
candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the
result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed
by a dictatorship.
The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred
years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from
bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from
courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to
selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy,
from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage. "

Alexander Tyler - Circa 1780 - discussing the fall of the Athenian
Democracy.



I'd say we're about at the complacent stage.....

I'd vote for apathy.




jf

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
k.net...

"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
online.com...

Unfortunately, our Constitution is not self-limiting. That is, if we
pass
an amendment which makes the US a theocracy, a theocracy it will be.

The only real protection we have is that the threshold for passing an
amendment is set relatively high.


Doesn't matter. We can just ignore the Constitution or declare it to
mean
something other than what it clearly states.

Dave Stadt wrote:
"Jeff Franks" wrote in message
...

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only
exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from

the

public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the
candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the
result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed
by a dictatorship.
The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred
years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from
bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from
courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to
selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy,
from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage. "

Alexander Tyler - Circa 1780 - discussing the fall of the Athenian
Democracy.



I'd say we're about at the complacent stage.....


I'd vote for apathy.


Apathy was killed by the Disco Fever in the 70's.

Did you not hear the wailing and nashing of teeth when they cut
welfare/job training to TWO YEARS. Poor seniors will all starve to
death if we dare cut into social security (ignoring the fact that
there's no way we'll be able to keep paying for it). And what are we
going to do if the FEDERAL government doesn't send money to teach little
Johny how to read?

Sorry. We're way into the dependancy zone, and with all the people
willing to give up every basic civil right to win some protection from
'terrorist' and 'drugs', I'd say we're falling over into the bondage region.


--
http://www.ernest.isa-geek.org/
"Ignorance is mankinds normal state,
alleviated by information and experience."
Veeduber

"Dave Stadt" wrote in message . com...

I'd vote for apathy.


Nobody cares about apathy.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message om...
"Dave Stadt" wrote in message . com...

I'd vote for apathy.


Nobody cares about apathy.


So what!

From: "Blueskies"
Date: 9/12/2004 6:54 AM Central Daylight Time
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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I'd vote for apathy.


Nobody cares about apathy.


So what!

Here's a couple of quarters. Call someone who cares.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
om...
"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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I'd vote for apathy.


Nobody cares about apathy.

Q: What's the difference between ignorance and apathy?






































A: I don't know, and I don't care

Tim Ward

odigy.com...

I'd vote for apathy.


Nobody cares about apathy.

Q: What's the difference between ignorance and apathy?


Ignorance is when you don't know any better.

Apathy is when you may or may not know better but you don't give a damn.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)