News Flash: You don't need elevator control !

I know of a Kestrel 19 that's done the same, twice. The wing attach design
is very much the same. The pin is not load bearing, but only locks the
wings together. As long a 0 to negative G is avoided, they won't come off.


Come on guys, this story is getting out of hand. Your asking us to believe that
a Kestrel driver used his neat little wing assembly tool to force his wings
together and then FORGOT to put the main pin in? And you say he did it twice?
That pin is not load bearing, but any turbulance (like what we do to make the
wing come out, on didassembly) will allow the wings to slide out and then our
fictitious Kestrel driver would find himself wingless.
JJ Sinclair

"JJ Sinclair" wrote in message
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I know of a Kestrel 19 that's done the same, twice. The wing attach
design
is very much the same. The pin is not load bearing, but only locks the
wings together. As long a 0 to negative G is avoided, they won't come
off.


Come on guys, this story is getting out of hand. Your asking us to believe
that
a Kestrel driver used his neat little wing assembly tool to force his
wings
together and then FORGOT to put the main pin in? And you say he did it
twice?
That pin is not load bearing, but any turbulance (like what we do to make
the
wing come out, on didassembly) will allow the wings to slide out and then
our
fictitious Kestrel driver would find himself wingless.
JJ Sinclair

Nevertheless, the owner admitted to doing this twice.

Frank

"F.L. Whiteley" wrote in message
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"JJ Sinclair" wrote in message
...
I know of a Kestrel 19 that's done the same, twice. The wing attach
design
is very much the same. The pin is not load bearing, but only locks the
wings together. As long a 0 to negative G is avoided, they won't come
off.


Come on guys, this story is getting out of hand. Your asking us to
believe
that
a Kestrel driver used his neat little wing assembly tool to force his
wings
together and then FORGOT to put the main pin in? And you say he did it
twice?
That pin is not load bearing, but any turbulance (like what we do to
make
the
wing come out, on didassembly) will allow the wings to slide out and
then
our
fictitious Kestrel driver would find himself wingless.
JJ Sinclair

Nevertheless, the owner admitted to doing this twice.

Frank

Maybe the tape and control linkages are _just_ enough........

One of our club members also landed his Std Jantar 2 following a winch
launch. A young lady that walked out to look at the glider picked up the
horizontal tail attach pin and handed it to him, as it had fallen out on
landing. He painted it in such a way that if it wasn't properly seated, a
color would show. He then booked a flight to Majorca to 'enjoy life' and
the fact that he was still living it.

Frank

"F.L. Whiteley" wrote in message
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| Maybe the tape and control linkages are _just_
enough........

The control linkages on the Glasfluegel ships are automatic,
so won't hold anything in. The tape may have been his
salvation...
Cheers, John G.

One of our club members also landed his Std Jantar 2 following a winch
launch. A young lady that walked out to look at the glider picked up the
horizontal tail attach pin and handed it to him, as it had fallen out on
landing.

Where I used to fly, we had a pilot landing his Jantar when I saw the elevator
lift off the vertical tail plane by about a foot and start rotating. The glider
pitched up and banked, a wing dug in the ground and I think I saw that wing
bend about 45 degrees. I took off running as the glider was heading for me. I
had learned to keep an eye out when this pilot landed as twice before I had to
run to avoid ground loops (no offense to the pilot is meant, he is a good pilot
who flies every weekend). After the glider came to a rest I ran up to him and
he was sitting in the glider with a stunned look on his face and the cockpit
was half filled with dirt, the tops of the pilots knees where sticking up out
of the dirt.

Craig

Frank wrote Maybe the tape and control linkages are _just_
enough........

OK, I'll buy the "tape" would be strong enough to do the job. Now, when a
bystander askes, "Is that tape all that holds the wings on?" We can honestly
say, On thes Kestrel, it is.
:)
JJ Sinclair

"JJ Sinclair" wrote in message
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Frank wrote Maybe the tape and control linkages are _just_
enough........

OK, I'll buy the "tape" would be strong enough to do the job. Now, when a
bystander askes, "Is that tape all that holds the wings on?" We can
honestly
say, On thes Kestrel, it is.
:)
JJ Sinclair

Two of the control rods are pinned in the Slingsby Kestrel 19. Don't know
about the 17.

Frank

Did you hear the story about the pilot who rigged his Kestrel, towed it to
the other side of the airfield where the launch point was that day, just as
he got there the wings fell off - no mainpin.

Very lucky the wind was not in the other direction, or the wings would still
have been on when he reached the launch point.

W.J. (Bill) Dean (U.K.).
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"F.L. Whiteley" wrote in message
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"JJ Sinclair" wrote in message
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Frank wrote Maybe the tape and control linkages are _just_
enough........

OK, I'll buy the "tape" would be strong enough to do the job. Now,
when a bystander asks, "Is that tape all that holds the wings on?" we
can honestly say, "on the Kestrel, it is".

JJ Sinclair

Two of the control rods are pinned in the Slingsby Kestrel 19. Don't
know about the 17.

Frank

Did you hear the story about the pilot who rigged his Kestrel, towed it to
the other side of the airfield where the launch point was that day, just as
he got there the wings fell off - no mainpin.

It seems to me that the wing pins are rather high on the list of things to
remember. Maybe if they are not smart enough to remember wing pins they
shouldn't be in the gene pool.

No, but I'm sure they would if it bounced along the ground very much, even
with the control rods pinned. I'm sure they went to full deflection.

Frank

"W.J. (Bill) Dean (U.K.)." wrote in message
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Did you hear the story about the pilot who rigged his Kestrel, towed it to
the other side of the airfield where the launch point was that day, just
as
he got there the wings fell off - no mainpin.

Very lucky the wind was not in the other direction, or the wings would
still
have been on when he reached the launch point.

W.J. (Bill) Dean (U.K.).
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"F.L. Whiteley" wrote in message
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"JJ Sinclair" wrote in message
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Frank wrote Maybe the tape and control linkages are _just_
enough........

OK, I'll buy the "tape" would be strong enough to do the job. Now,
when a bystander asks, "Is that tape all that holds the wings on?" we
can honestly say, "on the Kestrel, it is".

JJ Sinclair

Two of the control rods are pinned in the Slingsby Kestrel 19. Don't
know about the 17.

Frank