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Why aren't we doing this. It seems that you could DA sand
the wings in a few hours, shoot 200 bucks worth of primer, sand the primer in a few hours and be ready for topcoat. The issue of removing the old Gel Coat is generally a much bigger job that most people realize the Gel Coat the quite hard and the composite underneath is generally realtively soft and thin. So once you cut through the Gel Coat the DA tends to quickly cut through the 1st layer(s) of the composity very quickly weakening the structure. So usually while a DA is carefully used to remove the majority of the Gelcoat the last 10% of of it need to be carefully removed by hand sanding to avoid damaging the composite. Secondly those cracks in the Gel Coat as the get worse will transfer into the Composit actually causing cracks in the Composite structure. When removing the Gel Coat this can easily be seen as small white cracks in the Epoxy itself. I have seen one aircraft that the 1st layer of fiberglass had to be replaced because on all the cracks in the fiberglass. Even with Gelcoat the Materials are only a very small fraction of the cost. The Majority of the cost is labor of removing the old Gel Coat. Brian |
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Historically we have shown in the composites industry that you can't
effectively "fill" gel coat cracks with another coating, or simply cover them up. In examining the mechanism of gel coat cracking two issues become apparent: In the case of hairline cracks, the inherent viscosity and surface tension characteristics of most coatings will not allow them to penetrate the fracture area. If the crack is large enough that a coating will penetrate the fracture cavity, the bond strength between the coating and the crack sidewalls is not sufficient to prevent the development of two new micro-cracks on each sidewall. The only effective method of preventing crack propagation is to remove the crack in it's entirety by sanding to the bottom of the fracture area. The use of thermoplastic shrink film over a gel coated surface is an intriguing idea. Tedlar, in particular, performs very well in long term outdoor exposure. However, keep in mind that it would mask the cracks in the gel coat that potentially could propagate into the laminate substrate. I would have the same level of concern about hidden cracks in composites as I have with hidden corrosion in metal aircraft. Bob Lacovara |
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![]() "B Lacovara" wrote in message ... Historically we have shown in the composites industry that you can't effectively "fill" gel coat cracks with another coating, or simply cover them up. In examining the mechanism of gel coat cracking two issues become apparent: In the case of hairline cracks, the inherent viscosity and surface tension characteristics of most coatings will not allow them to penetrate the fracture area. If the crack is large enough that a coating will penetrate the fracture cavity, the bond strength between the coating and the crack sidewalls is not sufficient to prevent the development of two new micro-cracks on each sidewall. The only effective method of preventing crack propagation is to remove the crack in it's entirety by sanding to the bottom of the fracture area. The use of thermoplastic shrink film over a gel coated surface is an intriguing idea. Tedlar, in particular, performs very well in long term outdoor exposure. However, keep in mind that it would mask the cracks in the gel coat that potentially could propagate into the laminate substrate. I would have the same level of concern about hidden cracks in composites as I have with hidden corrosion in metal aircraft. Bob Lacovara If the 'process' was to first remove the cracks by sanding back to the substrate, then fill and flat locally with a polyester filler and then to apply film to the entire surface then perhaps we might have a solution? The biggest time consumer I find is the manual flatting and polishing required with either Gel or paint finishes. Ian |
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