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Hi All
Hope I'm not covering old ground on this thread and may I start by saying since we don't know the cause of the recent Puchacz incident, this doesn't relate to it, but the content of the thread. I knew John. He smiled lots. Much good advice within indeed. My first syndicate was a Bocian and IS29D, both of which spun at will, the IS29 without any pre-stall buffet. I once managed to spin the IS29 at the top of a loop which was slightly the wrong side of exciting... It does seem inexplicable (try as we might) that competent folks on well proven gliders get bitten. Sure spinning is complex and instruction invariably tries to be simple - 'if the nose drops, ease the stick forward' etc. With brain overload easily induced in students, it has to be simple. Perhaps the more complex subtleties of spinning SHOULD be introduced later as 'Advanced spin awareness'? One other consideration you may wish to ponder is the British weather, with possible icing and wet wings. This easily produces an asymetric wing: Imagine the instructional flight. All upper air work done well, the air's smooth and we try that old chestnut of the 'unexpected' deeper stall in the circuit - the one where the nose is down, grounds coming up and we just can't resist pulling before it's 'unstuck'. Demonstrated to me. Instructed by me. But NEVER in a wet or icy Puchacz, Bocian, IS29. Even a gentle simple, stall could bite very differently with wet / icy wings and turn a benign glider into something far more interesting. Fly safe out there. Pete Harvey At 15:24 28 January 2004, Robert Ehrlich wrote: Ian Johnston wrote: On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:35:43 UTC, (Chris OCallaghan) wrote: : the point of my link was to show that you will not spin from : coordinated flight. Tight turn. Slow speed. String in the middle. Pull up sharply as if another glider has just cut into the thermal. Whoops. Well, it works in a Bocian, anyway. Ian -- Another way I experienced it during my 1st flight in an ASH25 (with an instructor in the back seat of course). Circling in a thermal, with just to much aft stick than approriate. Speed slowly decayed (slowly beacause the hight weight and inertia of the glider), induced roll and yaw slowly increased, needing more and more inside rudder and outside stick, up to the point where a incipent spin started, immediateley stopped by releasing back pressure and centralizing ailerons and rudder. At the time of departure, stick and rudder were strongly crossed, but the flight was coordinated and the yaw string in the middle. |
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