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Puchaz Spinning thread that might be of interest in light of the recent accident.



 
 
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Old January 31st 04, 01:46 PM
Janusz Kesik
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U=BFytkownik Bill Daniels w wiadomooci do grup =
dyskusyjnych ...
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It does make one wonder. I seem to recall something on r.a.s. to the =

effect
that an inspection of a Puch in the USA turned up a metal plate that =

was
adrift somewhere in the rudder control curcuit. This loose plate, it =

was
said, could prevent the rudder from moving back from the fully =

deflected
position. I seem to recall that it was suspected that some of the =

spin-in
accidents might be due to this.


One day I was told about a Puchacz accident at Bielsko in southern =
Poland, many years ago. The trim handle (a small green ball made of =
fabric) went loose and disappeared. The student replaced it with another =
one, but didn't check where's the one which got lost, and then took off =
for a spin training...
The ball has been left inside, and it managed to get into controls, and =
in the moment they were in spin and tried to move stick forward to get =
out of the spin, it locked itself preventing the stick from moving =
forward. The student with instructor kept on pushing the stick, and =
finally hit the ground killing themselves.
Finally it became clear that if they had moved stick back for a second, =
they could survive, because thic could loosen the ball...

I just wonder how the student stupid had to be to not check the glider =
throughly after noticing that the handle has gone.

Regards,


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Old January 31st 04, 06:11 PM
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"Janusz Kesik" wrote in message
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I just wonder how the student stupid had to be to not check the glider
throughly after noticing that the handle has gone.

Three thoughts:
1) I find it courious that the student was doing maintence work on the
glider. and...

2) In exactly the same situation, I wonder if I would have been sufficiently
courious to check all of the deep-dark spaces in the belly of the glider.
Frankly, I am afraid of the answer. Perhaps that is why we let A&P's do
that sort of thing? and...

3) In many gliders it is very difficult to inspect under the floorboards and
back in the tailcone, yet you never really know what may be lurking there,
tools, lost cellphones, critters, etc. I once saw a good-sized snake bail
out of a glider just as it was landing and then slink off quickly,
apparently none the worse for the experience. It was not the first flight
of the day for that ship.

Regards,
Vaughn





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Old February 1st 04, 09:30 AM
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On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 14:46:10 +0100, "Janusz Kesik"
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I just wonder how the student stupid had to be to not check the glider throughly after noticing that the handle has gone.

I wonder if he thought to tell anybody else about the missing knob.


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Old February 1st 04, 11:03 AM
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U=BFytkownik Martin Gregorie w wiadomooci =
do grup dyskusyjnych =
om...

I wonder if he thought to tell anybody else about the missing knob.


Could be...

JK

 




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