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Old February 7th 04, 05:23 PM
Mark James Boyd
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Ted Wagner wrote:

I took the last half hour to read all the FARs, FAAs, PDQs and XYZs, and =
I can't find where they say that I can't wear my headphones when the =
airplane is coming in for landing. (And no, I'm not flying the =
airplane!)

I don't use my headphones for listening to anything but silence; they're =
the Bose noise-reduction model that uses a single battery.

I fly twice a week. The Southwest Airlines flight attendants have been =
very inconsistent. Some ignore the headphones, some make sure I'm not =
listening to anything but allow me to keep them turned on, others allow =
me to wear them as long as I turn the power switch to "off", others make =
me take them off entirely, and some of them enjoy making it an audition =
for the Niedermeyer All-Stars.

Is there a case I can make for keeping them on?

-ted c "to z or not to z" wagner


Part 91.21 is in addition to the part 121 stuff, if you care to
look at it.

Rumor had it this all started because some FM receivers were somehow
interfering with ADF on "fly-by-night" airlines flying over
Cuba that got off course (the route over cuba was
ADF only until GPS).

Then I guess smart guys probably got into it and noticed
MOST electronic devices put out some kind of transmission at
some frequency. If one was unlucky, that could make
compasses, VORs, ADF's, etc. do interesting things.

Both part 91 and part 121 seem to give a lot of discretion
to the PIC, and therefore his crew (including the
stewarde...er. Flight Attendants). I suspect if you
show them a manual that says "for flight use" they'd
probably just shrug.

My "ear putty" earplugs seem to do ok for me.
Got them at Long's. Good for swimming too...

www.ear-mart.com/water-noise.asp

"I am not recieving a commision nor free products for this
unsolicited endorsement, but would not turn
them down if offered" :P

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Old February 7th 04, 08:14 PM
Jim Phoenix
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"Mark James Boyd" wrote in message
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Both part 91 and part 121 seem to give a lot of discretion
to the PIC, and therefore his crew (including the
stewarde...er. Flight Attendants).


Actually, it gives that "discretion" to the certificate holder, which in the
case of a Part 121 airline is certainly not the PIC, it's the airline. All
121 (and probably 135)airlines have policies for PED, some are different
from others and all flight and cabin crews know their airline's policy on
PED use. That's why some airlines (mostly all these days) allow you to turn
your cell phone on after landing, but prior to parking at the gate - and
others do not. It's up to the airline and their written policy.

Not long ago some guy got popped for text-messaging on his cell phone
inflight, most people are not aware that non-certicated individuals can
receive a civil penalty as the result of an enforcement case involving 14
CFR (what we know as the "FAR's"). I don't think he did any hard time, but
maybe they made him clean the lav grinder or some such suitable punishment.

Part 91 rules are out of my league.

Jim


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Old February 7th 04, 11:40 PM
Mark James Boyd
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Jim Phoenix wrote:

"Mark James Boyd" wrote in message
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Both part 91 and part 121 seem to give a lot of discretion
to the PIC, and therefore his crew (including the
stewarde...er. Flight Attendants).


Part 91 rules are out of my league.


Part 91 uses the word "operator," whatever that means.

As far as part 121, that is apparently far out of MY league...


 




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