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February 21st 04, 12:25 AM
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Liam Finley wrote:
(Liam Finley) wrote in message . com... (Mark James Boyd) wrote in message news:4035b4c5$1@darkstar... LOL. I bet you live somewhere a bit flat? Good for you... Not exactly. As much as I'd like to support yours and Greenwell's illusions, my 4-cylinder trailering experience includes trips of up to 1500 miles covering mountainous terrain in the eastern Sierras and Nevada Great Basin. I have no illusions, just an interest in what people are towing, what they're towing it with, and - what's often missing from the discussion - the conditions under which they are doing it. For example, I don't know these things about your towing: Typical towing speeds Distance towed each year Elevations towed over Peak air temperatures while towing Length of trip during towing (days, not distance) Number of passengers and their luggage Weight of trailer Weight of tow vehicle And the number of cylinders isn't too useful: my six cylinder mini van has less horsepower than my 4 cylinder sedan, and weighs more than the sedan. I think the sedan would do a better job towing, but I haven't tried it. It certainly would be more comfortable! -- ----- change "netto" to "net" to email me directly Eric Greenwell Washington State USA 
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February 21st 04, 06:17 AM
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(Liam Finley) wrote in message . com...
(Liam Finley) wrote in message . com... (Mark James Boyd) wrote in message news:4035b4c5$1@darkstar... LOL. I bet you live somewhere a bit flat? Good for you... Not exactly. As much as I'd like to support yours and Greenwell's illusions, my 4-cylinder trailering experience includes trips of up to 1500 miles covering mountainous terrain in the eastern Sierras and Nevada Great Basin. Try reading your owner's manual, especially the part about towing weight limits.
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February 21st 04, 06:24 AM
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Tom Seim wrote: (Liam Finley) wrote in message . com... (Liam Finley) wrote in message . com... (Mark James Boyd) wrote in message news:4035b4c5$1@darkstar... LOL. I bet you live somewhere a bit flat? Good for you... Not exactly. As much as I'd like to support yours and Greenwell's illusions, my 4-cylinder trailering experience includes trips of up to 1500 miles covering mountainous terrain in the eastern Sierras and Nevada Great Basin. Try reading your owner's manual, especially the part about towing weight limits. "Never tow anything with your Mazda." Hmmm...I guess when I sell it I'm gonna say it was just for a mountain bike rack :P
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February 21st 04, 08:27 AM
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Tom Seim wrote:
(Liam Finley) wrote in message . com... As much as I'd like to support yours and Greenwell's illusions, my 4-cylinder trailering experience includes trips of up to 1500 miles covering mountainous terrain in the eastern Sierras and Nevada Great Basin. Try reading your owner's manual, especially the part about towing weight limits. There are quite a few 4 cylinder vehicles available in the US with specified towing capacities in the 1500 to 3000 lb range. VW Golf and Jetta, Subaru Outback and Forester, Volvo V40, Saab 9-3, Toyota Tacoma... Marc
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February 21st 04, 10:10 AM
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Marc Ramsey skrev den Sat, 21 Feb 2004 08:27:59
GMT: There are quite a few 4 cylinder vehicles available in the US with specified towing capacities in the 1500 to 3000 lb range. VW Golf and Jetta, Subaru Outback and Forester, Volvo V40, Saab 9-3, Toyota Tacoma... Towed a Discus with my -87 Golf II, 70 hp. It was very doable, doing 90 km/h on the freeway with no problems. When I encountered some steep hills, it was a different story though (we're talking steep here, normal road gradients posed no trouble). Felt like I was driving a heavy truck instead, having to downshift into second and pull onto the shoulder climbing. Not something you're used to in your car! Under 30 km/h, attention shifted to the engine temperature gauge rather than the speedo as the thermostat was wide open by then, trying to find the balance between speed (radiator airflow) and engine strain. Not something I cared much to repeat. It is legal and doable, but make sure there aren't any unusually long and/or steep climbs along the way. And if I _owned_ a glider, I would get a bigger car to go along with it. Er, actually, I did that anyway. Too much rust!  Cheers, Fred
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February 21st 04, 05:06 PM
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Marc Ramsey wrote:
Tom Seim wrote: (Liam Finley) wrote in message . com... As much as I'd like to support yours and Greenwell's illusions, my 4-cylinder trailering experience includes trips of up to 1500 miles covering mountainous terrain in the eastern Sierras and Nevada Great Basin. Try reading your owner's manual, especially the part about towing weight limits. There are quite a few 4 cylinder vehicles available in the US with specified towing capacities in the 1500 to 3000 lb range. VW Golf and Jetta, Subaru Outback and Forester, Volvo V40, Saab 9-3, Toyota Tacoma... Toyota Camry (2000 pound limit). -- ----- change "netto" to "net" to email me directly Eric Greenwell Washington State USA
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February 23rd 04, 07:24 AM
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February 23rd 04, 04:12 PM
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#10
February 21st 04, 06:22 AM
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Liam Finley wrote:
(Liam Finley) wrote in message . com... (Mark James Boyd) wrote in message news:4035b4c5$1@darkstar... LOL. I bet you live somewhere a bit flat? Good for you... Not exactly. As much as I'd like to support yours and Greenwell's illusions, my 4-cylinder trailering experience includes trips of up to 1500 miles covering mountainous terrain in the eastern Sierras and Nevada Great Basin. The lengths people will go to to rationalize the purchase of these expensive underperforming little gliders! Hehehe. Darn, you got my number. Can't get anything past these ras guys :P Yep, it's been a long winter...two more weeks to freedom for me though! And I've heard rumors of thermals...
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