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Bullwinkle wrote:
Yes, the towpilot knew. He was doing a bit of shaking himself, having just nearly had his nose driven into the ground. Yet, he, too, drove on that day. As I remember it (this was over 20 years ago) the towpilot made a pattern, landed, towed a couple of other gliders, and then the -20 driver was ready to go again. Janos and Mark raise an interesting point, though: this was a highly thought of pilot, the only one who regularly entered competitions. He went cross country just about every time he towed, when the rest of us were beating the towplane back to the ground. Thus, he was widely perceived as the best pilot on the site. Who would have been in a position to sit him down and have the "come to Jesus" talk he so richly deserved? What talk did he deserve? If he repeated the bad procedures the next week, yes, but what made you think he hadn't learned a valuable lesson? Perhaps he'd already determined the cause and the solution by the time he'd pushed the glider back to the launch point. What makes you think he would repeat that mistake? Not everyone is rattled by a mistake, even a potentially lethal one. Some can analyze it, correct it, and move on. I've seen good pilots do this in minutes, not days. Thinking back on it, the "culture" at that gliderport just wouldn't have supported it. A way to start might have been "Wow, that was close! How are you going to avoid that in the future?" Perhaps the club missed an opportunity to see how mistakes should be handled, and possibly a good pilot didn't get some questioning he needed. -- ----- change "netto" to "net" to email me directly Eric Greenwell Washington State USA |
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Well!
He's lucky to get away with that! Yes, a talk is required. Not a bollocking, but a sensible talk as to the the cause and solution of the problem. Let's not forget the tug pilot and others on the ground could have been killed. Therefore the matter can not just be left to the "competition" pilot. I wonder what solution he came up with in the few minutes between launches. The only acceptable one would have been to fit safety pin's to all L'Hotellier fitting's. Positive checks would not always have found the problem which causesd this accident. "The safety pin or wire prevents the locking plate from backing out and thus allowing the socket to inadvertently disengage from its corresponding ball". Do some of you still fly without safety pins? If you do don't you are risking your own and other's lives. Lets hope we all have a safe season. Happy flying! Regards Andy Eric Greenwell wrote in message ... Bullwinkle wrote: Yes, the towpilot knew. He was doing a bit of shaking himself, having just nearly had his nose driven into the ground. Yet, he, too, drove on that day. As I remember it (this was over 20 years ago) the towpilot made a pattern, landed, towed a couple of other gliders, and then the -20 driver was ready to go again. Janos and Mark raise an interesting point, though: this was a highly thought of pilot, the only one who regularly entered competitions. He went cross country just about every time he towed, when the rest of us were beating the towplane back to the ground. Thus, he was widely perceived as the best pilot on the site. Who would have been in a position to sit him down and have the "come to Jesus" talk he so richly deserved? What talk did he deserve? If he repeated the bad procedures the next week, yes, but what made you think he hadn't learned a valuable lesson? Perhaps he'd already determined the cause and the solution by the time he'd pushed the glider back to the launch point. What makes you think he would repeat that mistake? Not everyone is rattled by a mistake, even a potentially lethal one. Some can analyze it, correct it, and move on. I've seen good pilots do this in minutes, not days. Thinking back on it, the "culture" at that gliderport just wouldn't have supported it. A way to start might have been "Wow, that was close! How are you going to avoid that in the future?" Perhaps the club missed an opportunity to see how mistakes should be handled, and possibly a good pilot didn't get some questioning he needed. |
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