Anti Collision Warning

As one of those who is sceptical about the benefits
of an anticollision, I accept the comments made by
Mike and Bill. I hope the debate spurs those interested
in the development of an anti collision device or perhaps
a better description would a proximity alert to rpoduce
a working test model that can be evaluated.

Another area where we could impove survival of midairs
would be built in parachutes. I am sure that many
survival midairs accidents are not survived because
of the time taken to and the ability to get out of
a damaged aircraft quickly.

An in built parachute with automatic deployment would
surely help. Tests have been carried out and shown
to work.

Size and weight may be just part of the problem but
modern materials, would surely help to solve this.

Why it it that that, as yet, the devizes are not been
built into new gliders?

Dave

They are built into a couple of new gliders, you just need to be willing to
pay for it.

--
Bert Willing

ASW20 "TW"


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As one of those who is sceptical about the benefits
of an anticollision, I accept the comments made by
Mike and Bill. I hope the debate spurs those interested
in the development of an anti collision device or perhaps
a better description would a proximity alert to rpoduce
a working test model that can be evaluated.

Another area where we could impove survival of midairs
would be built in parachutes. I am sure that many
survival midairs accidents are not survived because
of the time taken to and the ability to get out of
a damaged aircraft quickly.

An in built parachute with automatic deployment would
surely help. Tests have been carried out and shown
to work.

Size and weight may be just part of the problem but
modern materials, would surely help to solve this.

Why it it that that, as yet, the devizes are not been
built into new gliders?

Dave

Dave Martin wrote in message
An in built parachute with automatic deployment would
surely help. Tests have been carried out and shown
to work.


Manually deployed built-in parachutes have been tested and shown to
work in controlled conditions. I am not aware that anyone has
developed or demonstrated an automatic deployment parachute for
gliders.

Schleicher offered a ballistic chute option in the marketing brochures
for the ASW-28. As far as I know it was never an available option. I
heard the testing showed problems. Anyone know details.


Andy

The BRS website lists the Russia AC-4 and the Mechta as aircraft they
have mounted the BRS system into. I have been unable to track down
the specific aircraft involved.

jeff

(Andy Durbin) wrote in message om...
Dave Martin wrote in message
An in built parachute with automatic deployment would
surely help. Tests have been carried out and shown
to work.


Manually deployed built-in parachutes have been tested and shown to
work in controlled conditions. I am not aware that anyone has
developed or demonstrated an automatic deployment parachute for
gliders.

Schleicher offered a ballistic chute option in the marketing brochures
for the ASW-28. As far as I know it was never an available option. I
heard the testing showed problems. Anyone know details.


Andy

(Jeff) wrote in message . com...
The BRS website lists the Russia AC-4 and the Mechta as aircraft they
have mounted the BRS system into. I have been unable to track down
the specific aircraft involved.



My reply was intended to contest the statement that *automatic* built
in chutes have been tested and shown to work. Do you believe these
BRS installations offer *automatic* deployment? If so, under what
circumstances do they automatically deploy?

I'd be interested in one that required manual operation and worked
with the glider in an inverted spin, or other severe unusual attitude
resulting from a structural failure. The one I wear on my back will
if I'm not incapacitated.

It would be technically possible to wire a firing circuit through the
wing tips and horizontal stab such that a discontinuity in the circuit
caused by loss of any of the major parts of the glider would cause the
chute to fire. Better be careful to disarm it though before derig.

Andy

There was an accident during the testing of the ballistic chute. The
gilder collided with the helicopter that was towing it. As the
helicopter pilot died, all the equipment was confiscated by the prosecutor.

The test will only continue when the prosecutor releases the equipment.
For that reason you can neither get the option from Schempp-Hirth nor
Schleicher.

DG and LS have a different philosophy. The developed an "ejection seat"
for glider pilots. It is inflatable cushion that will ensure that you
get out of the cockpit. This option can be bought immediately.

Hans



Andy Durbin wrote:
Dave Martin wrote in message

An in built parachute with automatic deployment would
surely help. Tests have been carried out and shown
to work.



Manually deployed built-in parachutes have been tested and shown to
work in controlled conditions. I am not aware that anyone has
developed or demonstrated an automatic deployment parachute for
gliders.

Schleicher offered a ballistic chute option in the marketing brochures
for the ASW-28. As far as I know it was never an available option. I
heard the testing showed problems. Anyone know details.


Andy