Sailors o the Sky

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Hi Alistair

Thank you for you time and patience.
First of all I must say that i'm not getting payed
for this and has no economical interest in this game.
(formal done - let's go to the interesting part!)

Please remember that it's summer now an except for
the bad weather (in Denmark at least) people are normally
away from their PC for sometimes a few weeks or so.
I quess in Franks case, you've got his old email adress
(he is not involved in it financial as well). I can't
speak for Saiz but has passed you inquires to him.

the answer to your question regarding padlock is easily
found in the manual found at http://145.94.92.174/docs/

or here as html in a zipped file:
http://145.94.92.174/Files/Sailorsdocs.zip

Use the find option on you computer with the word 'padlock'
and you will get the result that padlock is a way to
lock the view to certain things in the sim, such as
other planes (moving) and Waypoints.
look here for some info
http://www.tvwebradio.com/sailorsoft...w.asp?threadid
=168

Right. Well let's deal with your reply in detail.
I have emailed Jesus, Frank, and the UK contact whose
name escapes me at the moment. I have emailed them
twice each with the questions about 'padlock' etc.
So far not a single reply. I have managed to forget
my password and again three attempts at
getting SotS to send me a reminder have been ignored.
This means that I cannot ask a question on the forum.



Please give me your username and I will make sure you
will have it ASAP. (a free service from me :-) )


The support I am getting is pretty well
non-existant. Maybe you can tell me where I am going
wrong here. I did
once get a couple of emails from Frank Heimstra but
neither answered my
questions and he too has gone silent.

I know Frank very well, and he has not gone silent.
Remember he does this as a hobby and is not paied.
Remember to be excact in your questions, then you will
have excact answers.


A tree floated past me 50ft off the ground on a ridge
recently. I think that
qualifies as a bug.

I know that bug, and have reported it to Saiz. From
what I know, this will be corrected in the newest patch
which will be out soon!

About half the clouds which abound on some tasks do
not
have any lift under them but do have heavy sink. This
is NONSENSE as sink
must have lift nearby. A bug I fear.


The new version of SotS looks really nice including
clouds that will grow and dissapere. I'm not allowed
to post any screenshots but i can only say that it
looks great!

The forum does not contain any answer to the 'padlock'
question. In fact the forum is a real waste of time
as it does not answer such FAQ as how to put new planes
into the sim. The SotS site is currently in a state
of uproar as the 'downloads' are not working. Another
little bug perhaps?

No sir. Your are totally incorrect. The SotS forum
is the best forum around. Take a look at SFSpc forum.
This is in german and a lot of the times, you won't
get an answer unless you speak/write german.
The plane installation is really easy. Each plane has
been zipped and you just need to specify the Sots-directory
and your are of for a fly. Remember to use the newest
patch and search on the forum.
The search function on the SotS forum does not require
that you are a user.
take a look he
http://www.tvwebradio.com/sailorsoft...arch/query.asp
Also notice the Date Limit in the buttom. This is set
to 30 days as a standard. Try to search for padlock
and set it to 'do not limit by date'
Regarding the another little bug. I now that the server
where SotS is hosted on has gone dead. This server
was 'outside' the hands of Saiz (The hostserver had
a multiple near dead experience and this is what happens
from time to time)

You may well be a satisfied customer. I am not. I
think this is probably a very good sim but with support
at its current level it is a disaster for a 'newbie'
which many of us are. I could not recommend it to
a friend in its present state. Micrsoft and SFS do
much better in this area though their sims are less
accurate.

Sorry to say it - but again you are incorrect.
For Microsoft i can only say. Big Corporation with
focus on another form of flying (which is not gliding)

SFSpc lacks in the nonexcisting multiplayer capabilities.
It lacks in the fact that you cannot make landscapes
and new planes (both with and without engines) easily!

SFSpc has NO service whatsoever so your statement is
untrue.

(and to you comment with the Wales scenery. Wales scenery
is a free landscapes designed by Chris Vincent who
did this for FREE! He was not paied. Take a look at
SFSpc. Only 1 landscape (and then you can buy a landscape
of the border of Switzerland, France and Italie)
All the landscapes is free in SotS, and if you want
to make it more accurate it's very easy. Just contact
Chris for the files (i'm sure he will help you) get
a hand of some GTOPO height definition data and you
will have a much more accurate landscape!)

If you can explain any of this please email me off
list. Especially if you
know what 'padlock' is useful for!

I have chosen to write here in case of any satisfied
SotS customers who's around and can back me up. SotS
deserves that!

Best Regards
Kristoffer Raun

"Kristoffer Raun" wrote in message
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Hi Kristoffer,

First off, thanks for the trouble you have taken replying to my comments. At
least a few of the SotS supporters are prepared to answer questions and not
just make smart remarks. I will follow up your leads on padlock etc and I
hope that the new patches cure the problems I have outlined, which are from
a beginner's perspective.

I never said this was a bad sim. What I did say is that it is a poorly
supported sim, and because of that a lot of people could be put off using it
as a result. I have tried soaring on two other sims SFS4 and MS2002/4.
SotS has them beaten easily because of its superior scenery (even if Wales
is a bit too superior g) and better dynamics. Spinning in SotS is truly
frightening as indeed it should be, and the aircraft performance is very
realistic except for perhaps ground roll and some of the noises (do your
flaps sound like that??). I would guess that with some more work it could
be a world beater. If the problem lies in it being a one-man effort then
perhaps a few more of the talented folk around should offer to give Saiz
some help.

A better set of tutorials for add-ons is a must. I find that computer
experts are so far away from the average Joe that they are not best suited
to writing instructions and this gives the average Joe a lot of grief. For
example I downloaded a T21 glider from the site recently and it comes with
no instructions at all. Looking at the files in the zip there is no
correspondence with a typical file set for a default glider. This is
baffling. I have tried to contact the designer of this add-on but he does
not reply to emails in spite of saying in his blurb that he would like to
hear from users. Maybe all he wants to hear is praise not questionsbg.

I am pretty old (71) and am relatively new to computing (say 12 years or so)
so I am still not confident about chopping up files and parking the bits in
the right places though I did manage to get the Wales scenery into the sim
after a lot of effort. Again the instructions might make sense to an
expert, but they were double dutch as far as I was concerned.

Anyway thanks again for your help. Do you have an email address for off
list use?

Alistair Wright

"Alistair Wright" wrote in message
...

"Kristoffer Raun" wrote in message
...

Hi Kristoffer,

First off, thanks for the trouble you have taken replying to my comments.
At
least a few of the SotS supporters are prepared to answer questions and
not
just make smart remarks. I will follow up your leads on padlock etc and I
hope that the new patches cure the problems I have outlined, which are
from
a beginner's perspective.

I never said this was a bad sim. What I did say is that it is a poorly
supported sim, and because of that a lot of people could be put off using
it
as a result. I have tried soaring on two other sims SFS4 and MS2002/4.
SotS has them beaten easily because of its superior scenery (even if Wales
is a bit too superior g) and better dynamics. Spinning in SotS is truly
frightening as indeed it should be, and the aircraft performance is very
realistic except for perhaps ground roll and some of the noises (do your
flaps sound like that??). I would guess that with some more work it could
be a world beater. If the problem lies in it being a one-man effort then
perhaps a few more of the talented folk around should offer to give Saiz
some help.

A better set of tutorials for add-ons is a must. I find that computer
experts are so far away from the average Joe that they are not best suited
to writing instructions and this gives the average Joe a lot of grief.
For
example I downloaded a T21 glider from the site recently and it comes with
no instructions at all. Looking at the files in the zip there is no
correspondence with a typical file set for a default glider. This is
baffling. I have tried to contact the designer of this add-on but he does
not reply to emails in spite of saying in his blurb that he would like to
hear from users. Maybe all he wants to hear is praise not questionsbg.

I am pretty old (71) and am relatively new to computing (say 12 years or
so)
so I am still not confident about chopping up files and parking the bits
in
the right places though I did manage to get the Wales scenery into the sim
after a lot of effort. Again the instructions might make sense to an
expert, but they were double dutch as far as I was concerned.

Anyway thanks again for your help. Do you have an email address for off
list use?

Alistair Wright




Hi Alistair

I'm sorry you had problems with my T21. It was designed as a .x file and has
a different format from the standard SotS aircraft. Have a look at
www.hangsim.com for details. For more information and feedback please
contact me (evals) on the SotS forum.

evals