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Old August 25th 04, 08:34 PM
Andy Durbin
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Eric Greenwell wrote in message ...

On my ASH 26 E, the gas spring and the weight of the canopy supply a
noticeable closing force when the canopy is held open a few inches. I
think this would be plenty to engage a simple latch that would keep the
canopy from opening in flight. By "opening", I mean it might allow the
rear edge of the canopy to rise an inch or two, but no more. The usual
latches would still be used to secure it closed.



I suppose there is a first time for everything and at Parowan I manged
to launch with my P tube trapped under the instrument panel of my
ASW-28. Didn't notice the problem until well out on course so my
options were don't pee, or open the canopy to free it.

I very carefully held the canopy frame on one side and released the
latch on that side. Nothing happened. I then repeated the procedure
on the other side holding on even more strongly. Again nothing
happened. I was very surprised that I had to strongly push up on the
canopy to get it to open the half inch I need to free the P tube. I
was trimmed for about 60kts I think. It may behave differently at
different speeds.


Andy
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Old August 25th 04, 09:47 PM
Eric Greenwell
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Andy Durbin wrote:
Eric Greenwell wrote in message ...

On my ASH 26 E, the gas spring and the weight of the canopy supply a
noticeable closing force when the canopy is held open a few inches. I
think this would be plenty to engage a simple latch that would keep the
canopy from opening in flight. By "opening", I mean it might allow the
rear edge of the canopy to rise an inch or two, but no more. The usual
latches would still be used to secure it closed.




I suppose there is a first time for everything and at Parowan I manged
to launch with my P tube trapped under the instrument panel of my
ASW-28. Didn't notice the problem until well out on course so my
options were don't pee, or open the canopy to free it.

I very carefully held the canopy frame on one side and released the
latch on that side. Nothing happened. I then repeated the procedure
on the other side holding on even more strongly. Again nothing
happened. I was very surprised that I had to strongly push up on the
canopy to get it to open the half inch I need to free the P tube. I
was trimmed for about 60kts I think. It may behave differently at
different speeds.


I am curious about how different canopies will react to being unlatched.
The Schleicher design appears to have air pressure holding it down, at
least in the closed position. I don't know what happens if turbulence
were to bounce it up a few inches.

A friend had his DG 400 canopy open in flight, and stay open, so he had
to pull it closed. His headphones and various things flew out of the
cockpit. Fortunately, he was quite high at the time, and dealt with it
successively, but (as I recall) could not retrieve the headphones, so
the cord kept the canopy from latching after he pulled it back down.

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Old August 25th 04, 10:09 PM
Mark James Boyd
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In an RV-3, recently an unlatched side opening canopy
ripped off with a loud bang in flight and a friend of mine
lost his glasses with it. 100 knots in the open air
isn't fun.

He landed safely, but said it was exciting.

Katana canopies (clamshell) and side opening canopies
don't sound so great to me. Yep, the L-13 canopy
with self-latch seems pretty good, but for one seaters,
the rear-opening canopy seems like the best.
Besides, I like the vis a lot better than with
bars in the way...

I am curious about how different canopies will react to being unlatched.
The Schleicher design appears to have air pressure holding it down, at
least in the closed position. I don't know what happens if turbulence
were to bounce it up a few inches.

A friend had his DG 400 canopy open in flight, and stay open, so he had
to pull it closed. His headphones and various things flew out of the
cockpit. Fortunately, he was quite high at the time, and dealt with it
successively, but (as I recall) could not retrieve the headphones, so
the cord kept the canopy from latching after he pulled it back down.

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Old August 26th 04, 12:27 AM
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"Mark James Boyd" wrote in message
news:412d0013$1@darkstar...
In an RV-3, recently an unlatched side opening canopy
ripped off with a loud bang in flight and a friend of mine
lost his glasses with it. 100 knots in the open air
isn't fun.

He landed safely, but said it was exciting.

Katana canopies (clamshell) and side opening canopies
don't sound so great to me.


Yes, they open in front and can not maintain level flight with them open.
I think about three Katanas have been shot down by their canopies. I notice
they turned the canopy around on the 4-seater.

Yep, the L-13 canopy
with self-latch seems pretty good, but for one seaters,
the rear-opening canopy seems like the best.


Without a doubt!

Vaughn


 




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