Sikorsky To Acquire Schweizer Aircraft

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Heh, I hope Schweizer makes better helicopters than they did gliders.

It seems odd to disparage a company over a product they stopped making
almost 30 years ago, products that sold well at the time (e.g., 500+
2-33s produced sounds like there was a lot of perceived value back
then). I mean, don't we all hope we're doing things better now than 30
years ago?
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Eric Greenwell
Washington State
USA

Eric Greenwell wrote:
wrote:

Heh, I hope Schweizer makes better helicopters than they did gliders.

It seems odd to disparage a company over a product they stopped making
almost 30 years ago, products that sold well at the time (e.g., 500+
2-33s produced sounds like there was a lot of perceived value back
then). I mean, don't we all hope we're doing things better now than 30
years ago?

I think he's trying to disparage the glider in the hopes of driving
the price down. Then he'll buy them all up because they're
so sturdy and reliable and he really likes them. Hmmm...sort of a
sneaky trick, don't you think?

Come to think of it, I bet the "anti-PW" posts are also
conspiracies to drive the price down so the posters can
snatch 'em up cheap. Why else would the posters bother
with such elaborate criticisms? The ol' bait and switch...

I'm not fallin' for it. Liam is clever, as are his co-conspirators,
but I see through his evil plan....
maniacal laughter pervades the background
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Mark Boyd
Avenal, California, USA

Heh, I hope Schweizer makes better helicopters than they did gliders.

They do make good helicopters. The 300 are based on the Hughes 269 type cert.
As for gliders, they seem to have withstood the test of time.

It's hard to beat the 1-26 for a fun day on the ridge. If you haven't flown
one for a while, you should go rent one. They are an absolute blast to fly.
It's the most maneuverable ship I've ever flown.

Gary Boggs


"Shaber CJ" wrote in message
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Heh, I hope Schweizer makes better helicopters than they did gliders.

They do make good helicopters. The 300 are based on the Hughes 269 type
cert.
As for gliders, they seem to have withstood the test of time.

"Gary Boggs" wrote
It's hard to beat the 1-26 for a fun day on the ridge. If you haven't flown
one for a while, you should go rent one. They are an absolute blast to fly.
It's the most maneuverable ship I've ever flown.

I used to love the 1-26 when I first flew it, but then I flew a Ka-8.
Just as docile, just as old, just as cheap to buy - and a better
flying ship in every way.

Michael

"Michael" wrote in message
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I used to love the 1-26 when I first flew it, but then I flew a Ka-8.
Just as docile, just as old, just as cheap to buy - and a better
flying ship in every way.

...and 4 notches better on L/D but with a wooden wing. Not sure I would
want to tie one outside in South Florida, something that is no problem with a
1-26.

Vaughn

"Vaughn" wrote
I used to love the 1-26 when I first flew it, but then I flew a Ka-8.
Just as docile, just as old, just as cheap to buy - and a better
flying ship in every way.

...and 4 notches better on L/D but with a wooden wing. Not sure I would
want to tie one outside in South Florida, something that is no problem with a
1-26.

Outside tiedown for rag-and-tube aircraft is bad enough when it's dry
- then you just destroy the fabric. You ever recover a fuselage with
fabric? I have. It's not complicated, but oh man is it ever a bitch
to do. For the effort you put into recovering the fuselage once, you
could have built a primitive hangar.

In Florida, it's worse. Salty rain gets into the fuselage and the
tubes rust. Then, when you take the fabric off, you have a huge
amount of sanding and priming to do, and likely some welding as well.

The 1-26E is not so bad - it only has fabric tailfeathers, and those
you can recover in a long weekend.

Outside tiedown is something you really should only do on all-metal
aircraft, and then only inland.

Michael

The beauty of the 2-33 in my humble opinion, is that it gets people into the
air cheaply and quickly...is it the best? Well...at getting people into the
air cheaply and quickly AND safely...yeah I'd have to say it is. Someone
else mentioned "leagues" of soaring pilots in the US learning to fly in
2-33's and it probably is the truth. If they were available today new for a
reasonable cost, I'm sure clubs and schools would buy them. Cheap to fly,
cheap to insure, cheap to maintain...

I think what we sometimes forget, is that real soaring is learned almost by
ourselves, over time and through trial and error.Alone in the cockpit, by
trying things, not simply by just being taken out for a ride and being shown
how to soar...we learn in little increments, step at a time, learn a skill,
master it and learn a new one. We compare our performance to others in our
little brotherhood and emulate those better than us in many cases. The 2-33
allows us to get to the point where we can start to learn. The day I was
handed my first pilot certificate, Mr. Roy Beech handed it to me and said
"Now Steve...never stop learning...that's all this really is, a license to
learn"

In short, I think people should quit picking on the 2-33 and recognize that
it is an excellent entry level trainer, that offers its students the ability
to fly it from almost the first minute they touch the stick...and it begins
teaching us almost as quickly, what it wants or needs...I learned in one and
I think if my sons learn to fly, they'll learn in one...and from the first
ride in that grungy old 2-33 I have loved soaring. For me it has never
stopped and if I owe that to the venerable 2-33 then for me...that's enough.

For all it's faults as a sailplane, I have to say, to build a better intial
trainer, that is still being used daily, some 50 years after its inception,
is certainly worth more respect than that which some of the outspoken pilots
on here seem to grant.

It may not have taught me everything I needed to know about soaring, but it
sure taught me to love it...

Steve