Boom (gooseneck) Vs ambiance microphone

Hi,

I saw a glider recently with a "ambiance" microphone installed in the
instrument panel (facing the pilot, it only takes a small hole in the
instrument panel).

I was wondering how this performed compared to what we're used to = goosneck
microphone on the cockpit side.
I like the idea, it's saving space, and you have one thing less in the way
when getting in/out of the glider.

Has anyone been using an ambiance microphone in the instrument panel (or
somewhere else) ?
Any etra noise ? How does it perform ? Is that acceptable ? Can others hear
you correctly ?
Do you have to shout or speak normally ?

Regards,
Ludovic

Bonjour Ludovic: I have always been using panel mount
microphones on my gliders, and they perform just perfectly.
They take up very little panel space, usually less
than 20mm diameter, they are light and unobtrusive
compared to the boom type. Radio communication is absolutely
normal, you only have to raise your voice level when
there's a lot of ambient noise (flying fast with open
ventilation, or high vario volume), otherwise you always
transmit 5/5. They are not suitable for motorgliders,
of course.
Good ones are expensive: 110-150 Euro, but I once made
one myself with the mic capsule extracted from a cheap
handheld mike, and it worked 100% ok.
I would not do without one such microphone now (by
the way, I have two brand new gooseneck microphones
for sale: interested, anyone?)
Cheers,
Flavio

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Hi,

I saw a glider recently with a "ambiance" microphone installed in the
instrument panel (facing the pilot, it only takes a small hole in the
instrument panel).

I was wondering how this performed compared to what we're used to = goosneck
microphone on the cockpit side.
I like the idea, it's saving space, and you have one thing less in the way
when getting in/out of the glider.

Has anyone been using an ambiance microphone in the instrument panel (or
somewhere else) ?
Any etra noise ? How does it perform ? Is that acceptable ? Can others hear
you correctly ?
Do you have to shout or speak normally ?

We had one in a DG202 we had about 7 years ago. It worked quite well
until the glider was destroyed in an accident.

We replaced it about 6 months late, the new one now has a boon
microphone. On a trip to Feshie, I met a radio engineer who gave me a
circuit for a voice operated microphone. Unfortunately this used a chip
which is now obsolete, so I never built it.

The boom mic is sort of OK. The stalk needs a Viagra injection, and you
need the head of the mic. very close to your lips.

Hope that helps



--
Mike Lindsay

What brand names are the panel mount microphones so I can
check if they are available near me.
gary
"Flavio Formosa" wrote in message
...
Bonjour Ludovic: I have always been using panel mount
microphones on my gliders, and they perform just perfectly.
They take up very little panel space, usually less
than 20mm diameter, they are light and unobtrusive
compared to the boom type. Radio communication is absolutely
normal, you only have to raise your voice level when
there's a lot of ambient noise (flying fast with open
ventilation, or high vario volume), otherwise you always
transmit 5/5. They are not suitable for motorgliders,
of course.
Good ones are expensive: 110-150 Euro, but I once made
one myself with the mic capsule extracted from a cheap
handheld mike, and it worked 100% ok.
I would not do without one such microphone now (by
the way, I have two brand new gooseneck microphones
for sale: interested, anyone?)
Cheers,
Flavio

"Ludovic Launer" wrote in message ...
Hi,

I saw a glider recently with a "ambiance" microphone installed in the
instrument panel (facing the pilot, it only takes a small hole in the
instrument panel).

I was wondering how this performed compared to what we're used to = goosneck
microphone on the cockpit side.
I like the idea, it's saving space, and you have one thing less in the way
when getting in/out of the glider.

Has anyone been using an ambiance microphone in the instrument panel (or
somewhere else) ?
Any etra noise ? How does it perform ? Is that acceptable ? Can others hear
you correctly ?
Do you have to shout or speak normally ?

Regards,
Ludovic


Hi,
Work great if the side vent do not make to much noise
S6

I saw a glider recently with a "ambiance" microphone installed in the
instrument panel (facing the pilot, it only takes a small hole in the
instrument panel).


This sounds excellent! Where can I buy a quality specimen?

Does anyone know if the noise cancelling mikes used as hands free with mobile
phones would work?( impedence etc) I was thinking of mounting one just behind
the canopy frame at head level. They seem to work ok in a car with highish
background noise levels

I use the built in microphone in the Icom radio, which is mounted on the
right side of the cockpit about 300mm from my mouth. The only problems occur on
aerotow, when I have to raise my voice.

All the best,

Tom Hollings.

Try this:

http://www.md-flugzeugbau.de/flymic.html

(I don't take any money from them...)

Yes, thanks, that's just the one I had in mind.
I was wondering if anyone was using a more "off the shelf" component
though...


Try this:

http://www.md-flugzeugbau.de/flymic.html