Lawyers Flying Gliders

Jim Culp wrote in message ...

Consider, how many plumbers and pipefitters and homebuilders
and car mechanics and glider repairmen can you call
to come do their lifework for free?

Why should lawyers
be free
to gliderclubs?

No reason.

The clubs I've been involved with worked BECAUSE of the plumbers,
homebuilders, car and glider repairmen and, yes, lawyers that
unselfishly worked donating their respective talents to the good of
their community. I certainly hope that Jim Culp will find a group of
people that shows him how very wrong his position is.
Herbert, J7

Herbert Kilian wrote:
Jim Culp wrote in message ...

Consider, how many plumbers and pipefitters and homebuilders
and car mechanics and glider repairmen can you call
to come do their lifework for free?

Why should lawyers
be free
to gliderclubs?

No reason.


The clubs I've been involved with worked BECAUSE of the plumbers,
homebuilders, car and glider repairmen and, yes, lawyers that
unselfishly worked donating their respective talents to the good of
their community. I certainly hope that Jim Culp will find a group of
people that shows him how very wrong his position is.
Herbert, J7
Like most professionals the soaring pilots of the IT industry get asked to do
things for free. When it comes to running the clubs website, creating it, and
donating the server and bandwidth - I'm only too happy to assist. When it comes
to helping one of the folk in the club who are IT challenged, I am a little more
discerning. How likely I am to help a SECOND time depends on the others
attitude. The instructor who bust his backside to be at the club every weekend
to teach my hamfistedness out of me - he can have my time whenever he wants it.
The artizan who has never switched a PC on, can rely on me to print things he
needs - because he arives every weekend with his tools, just in case.

Some of the prima-donnas might wonder how I am always so busy though ;-)

I am a lawyer. Not doing something because someone may ask for free legal
advice would mean that I would have to stay home and watch television.

On the golf course, someone may ask me a question. I answer it. Of course
when I have a question about something that person is knowledgeable, I ask
him. Generally, my advice is worth no more than his. At the gliderport, a
friend is helping me with the engine of my motorglider. He knows more than
I do about engines. So far, he has not needed any legal advice, so he has
not asked any questions. He has mentioned about all the club members taking
advantage of him, however.

I have found that often the only people who do not get asked questions are
those who do not know very much.

I belong to a number of organizations and sometimes do free legal work or
answer legal questions. However, in all of those organizations, I receive
more than I give.

Colin N12HS



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Don't get me wrong - I am doing the soaring for my enjoyment, and one of the
things I enjoy in life is helping others. This means I generally help out and
help others with no expectation of direct or personal return. Advice and
information freely dispensed, hell they sometimes beg me to stop...

That said, I do apply a form of crude behaviorism - people who are completely
selfish and do not pull their weight tend to get lowest priority on things they
want that only benefit them. If it will help to make the club run better I will
help them enthusiastically. Anybody who contributes I will support - the
"takers" get help when it suits me, and I do it for my personal pleasure.

Agree with the part about you get more than you give - even where it is just
knowing you made something better. People can only take advantage if you give it
- in which case give freely, and enjoy doing it.

Bruce

COLIN LAMB wrote:
I am a lawyer. Not doing something because someone may ask for free legal
advice would mean that I would have to stay home and watch television.

On the golf course, someone may ask me a question. I answer it. Of course
when I have a question about something that person is knowledgeable, I ask
him. Generally, my advice is worth no more than his. At the gliderport, a
friend is helping me with the engine of my motorglider. He knows more than
I do about engines. So far, he has not needed any legal advice, so he has
not asked any questions. He has mentioned about all the club members taking
advantage of him, however.

I have found that often the only people who do not get asked questions are
those who do not know very much.

I belong to a number of organizations and sometimes do free legal work or
answer legal questions. However, in all of those organizations, I receive
more than I give.

Colin N12HS



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