USA - All students must show "papers"

As a "resident alien" this ruling strikes me as none to well thought
out. Interstingly, I assume (at least I hope) that when Immigration
issues a green card they do some verfication at the time. The card
also includes a photograph and a fingerprint. So, as far as I can
tell no new information is really being captured if agencies simply
talked to each other, but the flightschool (or rather our glider club)
is being made to jump through hoops with no added national security
and potentially a detrimental effect on flight safety if people are in
any way discouraged from taking additional or recurrent trainining.
Stunning.

I have filed a comment to the docket and encourage others
(particularily affected resident aliens) to do so also. Please, keep
them rational rather than emotional, but do file a comment.

P.S. This thing may take a while to work its way around to common
sense. So, if you need one within the next 3 months - absolutely do
it before the 20th lest you find yourself grounded waiting for your
instructor to receive 'TSA approval' to give you instruction (I really
hope I'm interpretting that wrongly).

(acrawford) wrote in message . com...
As a "resident alien" this ruling strikes me as none to well thought
out. Interstingly, I assume (at least I hope) that when Immigration
issues a green card they do some verfication at the time. The card
also includes a photograph and a fingerprint. So, as far as I can
tell no new information is really being captured if agencies simply
talked to each other, but the flightschool (or rather our glider club)
is being made to jump through hoops with no added national security
and potentially a detrimental effect on flight safety if people are in
any way discouraged from taking additional or recurrent trainining.
Stunning.


US resident aliens may be interest in this email exchange I just had
with AFSP


Me to AFSP:

Your FAQ page includes the following statement

"NOTE: At this time, U.S. citizens, nationals, and certain aliens are
not required to use the AFSP. If you have any questions regarding
qualification for the AFSP, contact your flight training provider."

I am a US resident alien living permanently in US. I have held an FAA
pilot certificate since 1979. Am I included in the "certain aliens
not required to use the AFSP". I contacted my local Glider Flight
School and they were not able to answer this question and had little
knowledge of the impact of the new rule on flight training.

Thank you for your assistance


Andrew Durbin


their reply:

Mr. Durbin,

Currently we do not have anyone who falls under that special class of
individuals. You are still subject to the rule, even though you are a
resident alien.

Regards,
AFSP HELP DESK

Andy Durbin wrote:
Mr. Durbin,

Currently we do not have anyone who falls under that special class of
individuals. You are still subject to the rule, even though you are a
resident alien.

Regards,
AFSP HELP DESK

The "special class of individuals" is no doubt being reserved for Saudi
nationals, when their government voices their objection to our fearless
leader...

Marc