Why does the Sporting code require "Goal" to be a finish point???

It may be copied into the flight log, but I doubt the declaration time
is changed to the current time. The time of the declaration should be
the time at which you pressed "save" when originally making it.

If you then make several flights, all will have this same declaration
time.

-Tom

(John Gilbert) wrote in message . com...

PS Volkslogger (and other?) flight recorder owners need to be aware
that the Volkslogger will automatically declare the most recently
stored declaration before each following flight, when power is turned
on. If you declare on paper, then climb in the glider and take off,
the last valid declaration will be in the flight recorder. You need to
declare on paper, after you power up the Volkslogger.

(Tom Serkowski) wrote in message . com...
It may be copied into the flight log, but I doubt the declaration time
is changed to the current time. The time of the declaration should be
the time at which you pressed "save" when originally making it.

If you then make several flights, all will have this same declaration
time.

-Tom

Tom,

Have you verified that with your Volkslogger? Every .igc file from
mine has the first "C record", where the declaration date is supposed
to be, the same date and time as the first "B record", the fix data.
(see TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION
FOR IGC-APPROVED GNSS FLIGHT RECORDERS somewhere on the FAI website)

Just to make sure I am interpreting my IGC files correctly, I looked
in the Volkslogger manual (2/21/2000), p. 24. "During the turn-on of
the instrument, the recording of a new IGC-file commmences
immediately. At this time the data, which are still in the declaration
form, are copied automatically into the corresponding places of the
IGC-files. The "automatic" declaration is, like any other declaration,
coded with the date and time of the turn-on."

In essence, one is declaring when one turns on the Volkslogger.

Regards,
John


(John Gilbert) wrote in message . com...

PS Volkslogger (and other?) flight recorder owners need to be aware
that the Volkslogger will automatically declare the most recently
stored declaration before each following flight, when power is turned
on. If you declare on paper, then climb in the glider and take off,
the last valid declaration will be in the flight recorder. You need to
declare on paper, after you power up the Volkslogger.

That's very unfortunate. In my 302, the time of declaration is when I
stored it into the logger. It then copies this declaration with an
unmodified time into each newly started log. In this way, I know for
sure whether the paper or electronic declaration is the current one.
If there's a power glitch just before takeoff and after the paper
declaration has been made - possibly in haste due to not having easy
access to the VL to change the declarateion, then the pilot is SOL.

I do have a bug report in to CAI regarding the fact that it's
impossible to change a declaration while the unit is in the middle of
a 'flight'. Consider the example of a pilot deciding to change the
declaration, so he lands, redeclares and launches again in the span of
a minute or so. The 302 does not see enough time of inactivity to
decide to start a new log, so the declaration doesn't make it into the
new flight. What the 302 need is an option to start a new log, so the
pilot is sure this has really happened.

I suppose this really boils down to whether we really need this rule
to stand. Now that the OO's signature is no longer needed, why not
restrict the declaration to occur before the start instead of before
the launch.

-Tom

(John Gilbert) wrote in message . com...
Have you verified that with your Volkslogger? Every .igc file from
mine has the first "C record", where the declaration date is supposed
to be, the same date and time as the first "B record", the fix data.
(see TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION
FOR IGC-APPROVED GNSS FLIGHT RECORDERS somewhere on the FAI website)

Just to make sure I am interpreting my IGC files correctly, I looked
in the Volkslogger manual (2/21/2000), p. 24. "During the turn-on of
the instrument, the recording of a new IGC-file commmences
immediately. At this time the data, which are still in the declaration
form, are copied automatically into the corresponding places of the
IGC-files. The "automatic" declaration is, like any other declaration,
coded with the date and time of the turn-on."

In essence, one is declaring when one turns on the Volkslogger.

Regards,
John


(John Gilbert) wrote in message . com...

PS Volkslogger (and other?) flight recorder owners need to be aware
that the Volkslogger will automatically declare the most recently
stored declaration before each following flight, when power is turned
on. If you declare on paper, then climb in the glider and take off,
the last valid declaration will be in the flight recorder. You need to
declare on paper, after you power up the Volkslogger.

Until I figured out how to erase all declarations, I used to turn on my VL,
and then have the O/O sign a paper copy (with time & date) of my
"most recent" declaration. This after I missed a badge persformance
due to this oversight...

In essence, one is declaring when one turns on the Volkslogger.

Regards,
John
on. If you declare on paper, then climb in the glider and take off,
the last valid declaration will be in the flight recorder. You need to
declare on paper, after you power up the Volkslogger.


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