Aircraft certification questions.

"Blueskies" wrote in message om...
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"psyshrike" wrote in message
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Howdy,

How does FAA type certification relate to intellectual property
rights? For example: everything in an O-235 has been out of patent for
years now. Same with old aircraft designs. Is there any reason why
somebody couldn't tool up and start ripping out O-235s, and selling
them new?

I notice that I can buy cylinders for my engine from several sources,
all with FAA blessing. Could the same legal techniques be scaled up to
a whole engine, or a whole airplane?




Superior is working on it:
http://www.superiorairparts.com/
http://www.xp-360.com/


This engine is being certified under a new TC. So technologically yes
it may use the same technique. From a regulatory perspective no it
isn't. So yes and no, depending on how you scope "technique". The
costs associated are really the major factor, which is a whole other
ball of wax.

-Thanks
-Matt

On 20 Nov 2004 08:33:50 -0800, (psyshrike)
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"Blueskies" wrote in message om...

Superior is working on it:
http://www.superiorairparts.com/
http://www.xp-360.com/


This engine is being certified under a new TC. So technologically yes
it may use the same technique. From a regulatory perspective no it
isn't. So yes and no, depending on how you scope "technique". The
costs associated are really the major factor, which is a whole other
ball of wax.

A friend of mine bought the superior kit and assembled it with a
Lycoming data plate, and is flying that engine in his PA-20. I
believe the engine log reads something like "overhauled using all new
PMA parts....etc. etc." The FAA inspector he consulted with
apparently didn't have a problem with it but then again this is Alaska
and the FAA is in many cases actually here to help you in these parts.


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Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
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"Del Rawlins" wrote

A friend of mine bought the superior kit and assembled it with a
Lycoming data plate, and is flying that engine in his PA-20. I
believe the engine log reads something like "overhauled using all new
PMA parts....etc. etc." The FAA inspector he consulted with
apparently didn't have a problem with it but then again this is Alaska
and the FAA is in many cases actually here to help you in these parts.

Makes sense, in a way. Say you have a Lycoming engine, and take it apart to
overhaul it. You see you need new jugs when you pull them off. You see you
need new pistons, valves, crank and cam, and.... Bearings and seals go
without saying. Then you see you need a new case, and what do you have? A
new Superior engine. You just intended to go through your old engine,
right?

Now, all you need to have is an old engine, to get the data plate from the
old engine. Minor details, that you replaced *every* single part, but since
they are all PMA'ed, it comes off as legal.

I like it! :-)
--
Jim in NC


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Morgans wrote...

Minor details, that you replaced *every* single part, but since
they are all PMA'ed, it comes off as legal.

I have the original axe George Washington used to cut down the
Cherry tree. 'Course I had to replace the handle...and the head...,
but it occupies the same *space* as the hatchet.

Dave 'Mr. Wright' Hyde

"Dave Hyde" wrote

I have the original axe George Washington used to cut down the
Cherry tree. 'Course I had to replace the handle...and the head...,
but it occupies the same *space* as the hatchet.

Dave 'Mr. Wright' Hyde

Right.g

This is about like the Glacier Girl, since every (or nearly every) part had
to be replaced or copied, since it was so badly damaged. It is the thought
that counts, right?
--
Jim in NC


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