USA - All students must show "papers"

"Roger Worden" wrote in message .com...
Some instructors, some clubs, and some FBO may well cease to operate
because of this rule.


Why? How great is the burden of photocopying documents provided by
students?



I agree Roger, how great indeed. We CFI's are currently required to
keep records of all instruction we give to each named individual.

LL

Bernie Lewis wrote:

I agree Roger, how great indeed. We CFI's are currently required to
keep records of all instruction we give to each named individual.

In all of these requirements, I've never before read of one
that required copying anything before this. All of my recordkeeping
requirements before this involved only a pen and paper.

And all of my students could begin flight training immediately, and
in the buff if they so desired.

Woulda been a great scene in "Team America," eh?
F**k Yeah!

Just my $1.05
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Mark J. Boyd

...We CFI's are currently required to
keep records of all instruction we give to each named individual.

In the U.S. instructors only need to maintain a record of test
recommendations, solo endorsements, and pre-solo written tests. During
my initial instructor exam the inspector asked me "are you required to
log each lesson given in your log book"? My answer was "No, but I think
it's a pretty good idea". The inspector responded with a vigorous nod of
the head.

See FAR 61.189

Tony V.

Tony Verhulst wrote:

In the U.S. instructors only need to maintain a record of test
recommendations, solo endorsements, and pre-solo written tests. During
my initial instructor exam the inspector asked me "are you required to
log each lesson given in your log book"? My answer was "No, but I think
it's a pretty good idea". The inspector responded with a vigorous nod of
the head.

See FAR 61.189

The CFI isn't required to log it in the CFI logbook,
but the CFI is required to log it in the student's logbook.

(a) A flight instructor must sign the logbook of each person to whom
that instructor has given flight training or ground training.

I have a bunch of white labels (stickers) that I use, and
write out the entry with the pilot's name, and give it to them
to put in their logbook (if they didn't bring a logbook with
them). For brand new pilots, I give them a new logbook
(about $3 each as I get them in bulk).
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Mark J. Boyd

In the U.S. instructors only need to maintain a record of test
recommendations, solo endorsements, and pre-solo written tests....

The CFI isn't required to log it in the CFI logbook,
but the CFI is required to log it in the student's logbook.

Right, but I thought we were talking about the instructor keeping
records. The post that generated my response read:

...We CFI's are currently required to
keep records of all instruction we give to each named individual.

which is not true.

Tony V.

An alleged Hispanic male, possibly an illegal, has managed to rob five local
Greeley banks, last April, June, September, and October 8th and 15th. His
M.O. is busy Friday afternoons, with crowded lobbies and busy parking lots.
I wonder how many other towns like Greeley (pop70000) are experiencing
similar activity.

Wonder if he's ever been asked for his ID for anything at any time?