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![]() "Bob Kuykendall" wrote in message om... Earlier, "Bill Daniels" wrote: It seems the aerodynamics of gliders has reached a point of near perfection where further performance increases are likely to be very small... I believe that is true for span-limited performace. There are probably substantial gains to be had by applying technological advances to increase span, but at at rates that get very steep when you look at the overall operational picture. Where I wish the designers would concentrate now is in the area of processes and materials where reductions in manufacturing costs might be realized. A breakthrough here would have large impact on the sport. I think that is sort of a chicken-and-egg kind of thing. At production run rates of several thousand gliders per manufacturer per year, I would guess that it would be economically viable to apply existing manufacturing technologies that could drastically reduce the per-unit price of a typical 15-meter glider. And by drastically, I mean between to between a quarter and a third of current prices. The trouble is that without a huge demand for gliders there is no incentive to spend the capital that it would take to build the manufacturing infrastructure that it takes to make them inexpensively. And without plentiful inexpensive gliders, soaring will continue to be popular among only (relatively) affluent people. I absolutely agree that it would be great if there were some sort of breakthrough that would drastically lower the manufacturing costs of conventional low-volume gliders. But even modest gains in that area will help nudge us towards the popularity spiral that it will take to attact real capital investment. Thanks, and best regards to all Bob K. http://www.hpaircraft.com/hp-24 I remember the first fiberglass gliders where huge effort was expended to make the plugs from which the molds were made. All labor intensive hand sculpture. Now CNC techniques can cut the plugs or even cut the molds directly. Where we once used glass fiber we now use carbon/epoxy pultrusion rods. Some progress is being made. Recently, I've been playing with solid UHMWPE. I have no idea whether a glider could be made of it but it's fascinating stuff - very light, strong, slippery and with fantastic abraision resistance. I understand it can be injection molded. Bill Daniels Bill Daniels |
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On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 03:14:10 GMT, "Bill Daniels"
wrote: Recently, I've been playing with solid UHMWPE. I have no idea whether a glider could be made of it but it's fascinating stuff - very light, strong, slippery and with fantastic abraision resistance. I understand it can be injection molded. I have two pieces of this plastic in the shelf, one, 1 1/4" round that is assumimg a C shape slowly, after about two years, the other is 3/16" sheet that is becoming a very interesting shape after roughly four years. Tends to indicate that over a period of years it is not dimensionally stable, but warps. Neither of these pieces is supported over it's length, it's on racks with similarly shaped materials. |
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![]() wrote in message ... On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 03:14:10 GMT, "Bill Daniels" wrote: Recently, I've been playing with solid UHMWPE. I have no idea whether a glider could be made of it but it's fascinating stuff - very light, strong, slippery and with fantastic abraision resistance. I understand it can be injection molded. I have two pieces of this plastic in the shelf, one, 1 1/4" round that is assumimg a C shape slowly, after about two years, the other is 3/16" sheet that is becoming a very interesting shape after roughly four years. Tends to indicate that over a period of years it is not dimensionally stable, but warps. Neither of these pieces is supported over it's length, it's on racks with similarly shaped materials. I suppose if you have a hip replacement joint made of UHMWPE you should be concerned. Maybe the stuff the implants are made of is somehow different. Bill Daniels |
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On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:05:00 GMT, "Bill Daniels"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 03:14:10 GMT, "Bill Daniels" wrote: Recently, I've been playing with solid UHMWPE. I have no idea whether a glider could be made of it but it's fascinating stuff - very light, strong, slippery and with fantastic abraision resistance. I understand it can be injection molded. I have two pieces of this plastic in the shelf, one, 1 1/4" round that is assumimg a C shape slowly, after about two years, the other is 3/16" sheet that is becoming a very interesting shape after roughly four years. Tends to indicate that over a period of years it is not dimensionally stable, but warps. Neither of these pieces is supported over it's length, it's on racks with similarly shaped materials. I suppose if you have a hip replacement joint made of UHMWPE you should be concerned. Maybe the stuff the implants are made of is somehow different. Bill Daniels A hip replacement isn't sitting in one position for two years at a time. |
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![]() wrote in message ... A hip replacement isn't sitting in one position for two years at a time. Oh, I don't know. You should see some of the layabouts in my houshold! :-) Ian |
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