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Old November 19th 04, 08:06 AM
Janusz Kesik
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Użytkownik "Mark James Boyd" napisał w wiadomości
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The SZD 50-3 looked to me to be a neat glider on paper, but the
abrupt stall/spin characteristics and accident record seem to betray it.

It's just a glider which was been designed to spin when asked, and not 'to
be afraid' of full acro. Nothing more. It just needs more attention of the
pilot.

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Old November 19th 04, 11:34 AM
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Janusz Kesik wrote:
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The SZD 50-3 looked to me to be a neat glider on paper, but the
abrupt stall/spin characteristics and accident record seem to betray it=

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It's just a glider which was been designed to spin when asked, and not =

'to
be afraid' of full acro. Nothing more. It just needs more attention of =

the
pilot.
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Regards,
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Hi Janusz

Whilst I must admit limited experience, 200 odd hours, 200 odd flights=20
over 3 years, and thus my opinion might not be worth much, I am truly=20
mystified by the bad reputation the Puchatz has. I think it is one of=20
the nicest gliders to fly. I fly some limited aerobatics (loops,=20
chandelles, stall turns and spins) and it always seem predictable and=20
controllable. Sure it scared the hell out me when my instructor first=20
showed me the spin, the transition from level flight to nose down=20
attitude was rather quick, but once you experience it know what to=20
expect it is not a problem. Our club has a firm rule that all aerobatic =

maneuvers must finish 1500 ft AGL and maybe that improves the safety=20
margins. I am wondering if the higher rate of spin accidents relates to =

the frequency with which it is used for spin training. After all if a=20
glider is not used to spin, it will have a lower rate of spin accidents. =

I have flown some 9 different glider types, from Blaniks to Ventus B=20
and the Puchatz would have to be the easiest glider to fly. The part I=20
found most curious is the fact that very experienced pilots seem to have =

got them selves into trouble.

Paul

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Old November 19th 04, 12:50 PM
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Actuallly if you look at the statistics (in the UK at least) the Puchacz is
only dangerous when there is an instructor on board! The low time pilots
flying solo don't seem to have any problems.

Basil


"Paul" wrote
Hi Janusz

After all if a
glider is not used to spin, it will have a lower rate of spin accidents.
I have flown some 9 different glider types, from Blaniks to Ventus B
and the Puchatz would have to be the easiest glider to fly. The part I
found most curious is the fact that very experienced pilots seem to have
got them selves into trouble.

Paul


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Old November 19th 04, 01:00 PM
Janusz Kesik
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Użytkownik "basils27" napisał w wiadomości
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Actuallly if you look at the statistics (in the UK at least) the Puchacz

is
only dangerous when there is an instructor on board! The low time pilots
flying solo don't seem to have any problems.


Well, maybe this means that the instructors should look at the mirror more
carefully? A routine, bad habits? Could be. I have heard that Puchacz
requires the 'handbook' recovery (the pupils who fly alone just do it like
it is stated in their handbook) so maybe there's a bug - in a so called
'human factor'?

Regards,


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