New Word 'SOARING'

Gentlemen:

You are all making reference in your comments regarding SOARING
magazine, in one way or the other, to "The SSA."

I'd respectfully point out to you all that "The SSA" does not produce a
magazine. People, in this case Denise Layton, (managing editor), Steve
Hines (art director) and a volunteer staff of your peers (contributing
editors) produce the magazine. And being people, they have the same
feelings you all (presumably) do. They surely take Ray's "buyfriend"
comment in jest. Others they surely do not.

It's very easy to be critical of "The SSA," or "SOARING magazine"
because they have no voices, and cannot respond. Nor can they afford
you some insight into exactly what it's like putting out five issues of
the magazine, and at least one issue of Technical Soaring at the same
time as planning and executing a national convention, to say nothing of
running a 12,600 member organization (all for your benefit).

"The SSA" and "SOARING magazine" have no voices, but I do. And again,
respectfully, I know what I am talking about. I have spent at least 60
hour weeks for over a year as a volunteer for the SSA, serving on the
Board, ExComm, and creating a convention that I hope each of you will
attend and enjoy.

In so doing, I have worked closely with all of the Hobbs staff. In
particular, I helped Denise Layton create the convention program, which
is nearly as large as an issue of SOARING magazine. Denise did this at
the same time she put out 5 issues of SOARING, and at least one issue of
Technical Soaring. And Steve Hines has been very helpful with graphic
design for the convention. He was busy creating those five SOARING
issues, while Denise did the program herself.

Just how hard does this woman work for "The SSA?" She will be angry
with me for sharing this, but I think it's high time "The SSA" had a
voice, and you started to listen to it:

"At this point I barely remember my own name, and I now have bigger and
better problems then that. Problems with the March magazine. I have not
had a single day off (including weekends) since Christmas, have only
gone to lunch maybe three times in the last three weeks, and killed
myself working on the convention and the magazine. I have come in early
every morning, left late every night. I can't take the nastiness on RAS
any more."

Is SOARING magazine perfect? Far from it. Is it significantly better in
recent times? I, for one, think so. And everyone involved is working
hard to make it better, all the time. While there is some significant
confusion about exactly who might be responsible for those missing
captions in Mr. Rezor's article, in the future, please do your best to
"go easy" on people when mistakes are made. These people can only do 4
or 5 things at once, and ultimately, everything they do (imperfect as
they may be) is for you.

I hope all of you will attend the convention.

Jim Skydell Region 12

Jim Skydell wrote:
Gentlemen:

You are all making reference in your comments regarding SOARING
magazine, in one way or the other, to "The SSA."

I'd respectfully point out to you all that "The SSA" does not produce
a
magazine. People, in this case Denise Layton, (managing editor),
Steve
Hines (art director) and a volunteer staff of your peers
(contributing
editors) produce the magazine. And being people, they have the same
feelings you all (presumably) do. They surely take Ray's "buyfriend"
comment in jest. Others they surely do not.

It's very easy to be critical of "The SSA," or "SOARING magazine"
because they have no voices, and cannot respond. Nor can they afford

you some insight into exactly what it's like putting out five issues
of
the magazine, and at least one issue of Technical Soaring at the same

time as planning and executing a national convention, to say nothing
of
running a 12,600 member organization (all for your benefit).

"The SSA" and "SOARING magazine" have no voices, but I do. And
again,
respectfully, I know what I am talking about. I have spent at least
60
hour weeks for over a year as a volunteer for the SSA, serving on the

Board, ExComm, and creating a convention that I hope each of you will

attend and enjoy.

In so doing, I have worked closely with all of the Hobbs staff. In
particular, I helped Denise Layton create the convention program,
which
is nearly as large as an issue of SOARING magazine. Denise did this
at
the same time she put out 5 issues of SOARING, and at least one issue
of
Technical Soaring. And Steve Hines has been very helpful with graphic

design for the convention. He was busy creating those five SOARING
issues, while Denise did the program herself.

Just how hard does this woman work for "The SSA?" She will be angry
with me for sharing this, but I think it's high time "The SSA" had a
voice, and you started to listen to it:

"At this point I barely remember my own name, and I now have bigger
and
better problems then that. Problems with the March magazine. I have
not
had a single day off (including weekends) since Christmas, have only
gone to lunch maybe three times in the last three weeks, and killed
myself working on the convention and the magazine. I have come in
early
every morning, left late every night. I can't take the nastiness on
RAS
any more."

Is SOARING magazine perfect? Far from it. Is it significantly better
in
recent times? I, for one, think so. And everyone involved is
working
hard to make it better, all the time. While there is some significant

confusion about exactly who might be responsible for those missing
captions in Mr. Rezor's article, in the future, please do your best
to
"go easy" on people when mistakes are made. These people can only do
4
or 5 things at once, and ultimately, everything they do (imperfect as

they may be) is for you.

I hope all of you will attend the convention.

Jim Skydell Region 12

Jim:
You forgot to tell them that they obviously have not volunteered to
help out. Its a very small group doing everything that needs doing and
volunteerism is the buzz word this year. If you don't like the
pictures, send some new ones; if you don't like the editing, become a
contributing editor. Stop whining and pitch in and help.

dianne wrote:

Jim:
You forgot to tell them that they obviously have not volunteered to
help out. Its a very small group doing everything that needs doing and
volunteerism is the buzz word this year. If you don't like the
pictures, send some new ones; if you don't like the editing, become a
contributing editor. Stop whining and pitch in and help.

Dianne, Mr. Vorsanger is already helping us, and I am grateful for it.
He worked very hard at the AOPA convention this year, staffing the SSA
booth. He is also one of our 80 or so convention volunteers. I took his
comment in jest, as I did Ray's.

As far as some of the other folks posting here, I doubt Denise would
want their help. That's why I didn't ask.

Jim

I saw the typo on boyfriend (buyfriend) and was amused. Soaring is essentially
a home grown magazine that does a great job considering the resources it has.
I suppose we could add another editor, but that would increase our dues. I'd
rather keep the occasional typo. Good thing it was not bi-friend.

What I don't get is the Too Late To Classify section. How come there are
always repeat ads in there? Also, how can anyone write an article about
actually enjoying a flight in a 2-33? I thought the mantra was glass, glass,
glass.

Jim Vincent
N483SZ
illspam

Jim Vincent wrote:
I saw the typo on boyfriend (buyfriend) and was amused. Soaring is
essentially
a home grown magazine that does a great job considering the resources
it has.
I suppose we could add another editor, but that would increase our
dues. I'd
rather keep the occasional typo. Good thing it was not bi-friend.

What I don't get is the Too Late To Classify section. How come there
are
always repeat ads in there? Also, how can anyone write an article
about
actually enjoying a flight in a 2-33? I thought the mantra was
glass, glass,
glass.

Jim Vincent
N483SZ
illspam

Hey Jim- You are sounding like an elitist snob. You fly in an older,
well established, and relatively wealthy club. Many others, likely the
majority, don't. Lots of people do enjoy flying 2-33's or 1-26's or
whatever.
The mantra should be to enjoy whatever you fly and encourage the other
person to do the same. It does not matter what you fly, but rather that
you fly.
UH

Sorry, but I thought my sarcasm was showing by mentioning the mantra of glass,
glass, glass. Personally, I always questioned the value of transitioning to a
G-103 fleet instead of the good old 2-33s. It has substantially raised our
membership cost and consequently driven some members out.

I am not an elitist slob, but most of the management and their cronies refer to
anything not glass as POS. It is almost humorous to hear a student with less
than ten flights refer to a 1-26 as a POS.

When I started flying, I compared the cost of renting a 2-33 to the cost of
renting a G103. The decision was a no brainer. Learn to fly in a 2-33 and
then do 3-4 flights to transition to the Grob. No big deal. At my club, the
thinking is one has to unlearn the bad habits developed in a 2-33.

The Great news is....I quit PGC! Time to have fun!




actually enjoying a flight in a 2-33? I thought the mantra was
glass, glass,
glass.



Hey Jim- You are sounding like an elitist snob. You fly in an older,
well established, and relatively wealthy club. Many others, likely the
majority, don't. Lots of people do enjoy flying 2-33's or 1-26's or
whatever.
The mantra should be to enjoy whatever you fly and encourage the other
person to do the same. It does not matter what you fly, but rather that
you fly.
UH



Jim Vincent
N483SZ
illspam

Jim Vincent wrote:
I saw the typo on boyfriend (buyfriend) and was amused. Soaring is
essentially
a home grown magazine that does a great job considering the resources
it has.
I suppose we could add another editor, but that would increase our
dues. I'd
rather keep the occasional typo. Good thing it was not bi-friend.

What I don't get is the Too Late To Classify section. How come there
are
always repeat ads in there? Also, how can anyone write an article
about
actually enjoying a flight in a 2-33? I thought the mantra was
glass, glass,
glass.

Jim Vincent
N483SZ
illspam

Jim Vincent wrote:
I saw the typo on boyfriend (buyfriend) and was amused. Soaring is
essentially
a home grown magazine that does a great job considering the resources
it has.
I suppose we could add another editor, but that would increase our
dues. I'd
rather keep the occasional typo. Good thing it was not bi-friend.

What I don't get is the Too Late To Classify section. How come there
are
always repeat ads in there? Also, how can anyone write an article
about
actually enjoying a flight in a 2-33? I thought the mantra was
glass, glass,
glass.

Jim Vincent
N483SZ
illspam

Well put Jim

If something bothers you - do something constructive about it.

Constructive things include anything that makes gathering, editing and producing
the content easier. By far the biggest job in terms of time and frustration
appears to be getting people to contribute material. Stories, photos and ideas.
You don't have to be able to produce a professional quality document - that's
the editor's job. Conversely, the likelihood of the editor having your
experience in soaring is small.

My wife is a freelance industrial editor - producing what she refers to as
"mortal prose" . In house magazines pretty similar to Soaring. So I have some
appreciation for how hard it is to produce something like this.

If you make the job easier, the value / quality of what you get will improve.
Don't like seeing old pictures? - Contribute some new ones.

Just my 2c worth. (unlike Jim, not so respectful - there are too many whiners
out there...)



Jim Skydell wrote:
Gentlemen:

You are all making reference in your comments regarding SOARING
magazine, in one way or the other, to "The SSA."

I'd respectfully point out to you all that "The SSA" does not produce a
magazine. People, in this case Denise Layton, (managing editor), Steve
Hines (art director) and a volunteer staff of your peers (contributing
editors) produce the magazine. And being people, they have the same
feelings you all (presumably) do. They surely take Ray's "buyfriend"
comment in jest. Others they surely do not.

It's very easy to be critical of "The SSA," or "SOARING magazine"
because they have no voices, and cannot respond. Nor can they afford
you some insight into exactly what it's like putting out five issues of
the magazine, and at least one issue of Technical Soaring at the same
time as planning and executing a national convention, to say nothing of
running a 12,600 member organization (all for your benefit).

"The SSA" and "SOARING magazine" have no voices, but I do. And again,
respectfully, I know what I am talking about. I have spent at least 60
hour weeks for over a year as a volunteer for the SSA, serving on the
Board, ExComm, and creating a convention that I hope each of you will
attend and enjoy.

In so doing, I have worked closely with all of the Hobbs staff. In
particular, I helped Denise Layton create the convention program, which
is nearly as large as an issue of SOARING magazine. Denise did this at
the same time she put out 5 issues of SOARING, and at least one issue of
Technical Soaring. And Steve Hines has been very helpful with graphic
design for the convention. He was busy creating those five SOARING
issues, while Denise did the program herself.

Just how hard does this woman work for "The SSA?" She will be angry
with me for sharing this, but I think it's high time "The SSA" had a
voice, and you started to listen to it:

"At this point I barely remember my own name, and I now have bigger and
better problems then that. Problems with the March magazine. I have not
had a single day off (including weekends) since Christmas, have only
gone to lunch maybe three times in the last three weeks, and killed
myself working on the convention and the magazine. I have come in early
every morning, left late every night. I can't take the nastiness on RAS
any more."

Is SOARING magazine perfect? Far from it. Is it significantly better in
recent times? I, for one, think so. And everyone involved is working
hard to make it better, all the time. While there is some significant
confusion about exactly who might be responsible for those missing
captions in Mr. Rezor's article, in the future, please do your best to
"go easy" on people when mistakes are made. These people can only do 4
or 5 things at once, and ultimately, everything they do (imperfect as
they may be) is for you.

I hope all of you will attend the convention.

Jim Skydell Region 12