glassholes

wrote:
You are so full of it.

Anyway, if you are going to quit, then do it like a man, dammit,
instead of hanging around and whining about it.

What a waste of air...

Kirk


One of the real problems with growing or maintaining our sport is
retention of people we have attracted and spent resources on to train.
When someone leaves, such as described above, we need to know why so it
does not get repeated. The club, or operator, or whatever that this
person felt rejected from needs to know they got it wrong.
I think he should not go quietly, but should let them know why he felt
excluded. It might be a misunderstanding and fixable.
UH

writes
I think he should not go quietly, but should let them know why he felt
excluded. It might be a misunderstanding and fixable.

Unless it happens to be Lenny the Lurker we're talking about. He went
ages ago, he just won't go quiet, more's the pity. Kirk, the best bet is
to just keep your kill-list up to date with his various email addresses.
Rising to it is just wasting your own oxygen to give him exactly the
validation he seeks.

--
Bill Gribble
http://www.scapegoatsanon.demon.co.uk

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:02:23 +0000, Bill Gribble
wrote:


Unless it happens to be Lenny the Lurker we're talking about.

I do believe I've signed my postings several times as:
Greybeard/Lennie
Which you seem incapable of even copying correctly.
But I've been using the Greybeard for almost six months, the time that
I signed on with supernews. Part of the benefit was being able to use
Agent and to set up an email addy that will only result in bounces,
kept my mailbox from becoming a spam box.

Not that it matters, three years and three months is not an age.

It matters less, my bill for sbcglobal went from $30 to $50 this
month, and there isn't another viable ISP available, Road Runner has
proven twice that they can't keep simple user names separated, they've
been trashed twice because I was getting someone elses email, as well
as my own, and vice versa.

Any returns that I might have looked for from the expense have
disappeared completely. $50 for usenet and the few emails I get is
more than a little extravagant, well into the range of idiocy.

Greybeard

On 16 Feb 2005 06:39:51 -0800, wrote:

It might be a misunderstanding and fixable.

Once someone has left, it's never fixable. When the door opens to let
them out, it's too late to do anything. Hindsight is always 20/20,
but always pretty useless if ignored. They _may_ return, but the
timer is ticking. You don't have two chances, blow the first one and
it's over for eternity.

Greybeard

wrote:
Anyway, if you are going to quit, then do it like a man, dammit,
instead of hanging around and whining about it.

One of the real problems with growing or maintaining our sport is
retention of people we have attracted and spent resources on to train.
When someone leaves, such as described above, we need to know why so it
does not get repeated. The club, or operator, or whatever that this
person felt rejected from needs to know they got it wrong.
I think he should not go quietly,...

Er...Not in this case. He not only didn't go quietly, he didn't stay
quietly and he didn't enter quietly. Greybeard / Lennie the Lurker /
nobody@nowhere / numerous other aliases not only told all of us at
length over many months why he had left, he also told us over almost as
long a period why he was going to leave and even earlier, he took as
long to tell us why he was thinking he might leave even though he hadn't
really started. Nearly every visit to the field was preceded by weeks
of email angst.

Google r.a.s. for those aliases and you'll see what I mean. Kirk spoke
for a lot of people.

..but should let them know why he felt
excluded. It might be a misunderstanding and fixable.

It's a misunderstanding. They thought he was reasonable. It's not fixable.

GC

UH