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"Michael 182" wrote in message
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The writings of an academic are considered part of his body of work. I
personally think Churchill is an idiot, but whether his comments were made
"in the classroom, in the lecture hall, or even on the campus" is
irrelevant.

Not necessarily; his right to free speech does not include being paid for
it, nor is his right being abrogated, only the aspect of being paid for it.

"Matt Barrow"

"Michael 182" wrote in message
...
The writings of an academic are considered part of his body of work. I
personally think Churchill is an idiot, but whether his comments were
made
"in the classroom, in the lecture hall, or even on the campus" is
irrelevant.

Not necessarily; his right to free speech does not include being paid for
it, nor is his right being abrogated, only the aspect of being paid for
it.

Firing tenured professors because they say something offensive to many
people is a really bad idea. Unfortunately, in a politically charged
atmosphere, more and more academics are being threatened with censure. A
quick look back at history shows where this leads. If the guy's nuts, he'll
eventually be ignored by everyone except other nuts. This sort of thing
happens in the physical sciences as well.

moo

"Happy Dog" wrote in message
.. .
"Matt Barrow"

"Michael 182" wrote in message
...
The writings of an academic are considered part of his body of work. I
personally think Churchill is an idiot, but whether his comments were
made
"in the classroom, in the lecture hall, or even on the campus" is
irrelevant.

Not necessarily; his right to free speech does not include being paid for
it, nor is his right being abrogated, only the aspect of being paid for
it.

Firing tenured professors because they say something offensive to many
people is a really bad idea. Unfortunately, in a politically charged
atmosphere, more and more academics are being threatened with censure. A
quick look back at history shows where this leads.

If the guy's nuts, he'll eventually be ignored by everyone except other
nuts. .....


I would think a market-driven sort of society would embrace that concept....
or are we a market-driven society only when its our own stuff that is
selling to the exclusion of others?? :-)

"Happy Dog" wrote in message
.. .
"Matt Barrow"

"Michael 182" wrote in message
...
The writings of an academic are considered part of his body of work. I
personally think Churchill is an idiot, but whether his comments were
made
"in the classroom, in the lecture hall, or even on the campus" is
irrelevant.

Not necessarily; his right to free speech does not include being paid
for
it, nor is his right being abrogated, only the aspect of being paid for
it.

Firing tenured professors because they say something offensive to many
people is a really bad idea.

True enough, but what this mental furrball is spewing is not merely
offensive, it's nownright demented. This is not the type of pereson we need,
of any persuasion, teaching our youth.

Unfortunately, in a politically charged
atmosphere, more and more academics are being threatened with censure.

Cite?

A
quick look back at history shows where this leads. If the guy's nuts,
he'll
eventually be ignored by everyone except other nuts.

And in the meantime he's polluting our youth minds. That's NOT the purpose
of education, especially tax funded "education".

This sort of thing
happens in the physical sciences as well.

Cite?

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:30:57 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
wrote in
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this mental furrball is spewing is not merely
offensive, it's nownright demented.

Are you able to quote a few examples of Churchill's statements that
you feel constitute evidence of his dementia?

"Matt Barrow"

Firing tenured professors because they say something offensive to many
people is a really bad idea.

True enough, but what this mental furrball is spewing is not merely
offensive, it's nownright demented. This is not the type of pereson we
need,
of any persuasion, teaching our youth.

There are lots of loony professors. So what.

Unfortunately, in a politically charged
atmosphere, more and more academics are being threatened with censure.

Cite?

http://www.bedfordstmartins.com/comp...rns/dority.htm
http://www.aaup.org/publications/Aca...jf/03jfkni.htm


quick look back at history shows where this leads. If the guy's nuts,
he'll eventually be ignored by everyone except other nuts.

And in the meantime he's polluting our youth minds. That's NOT the purpose
of education, especially tax funded "education".

Yes. Don't trust listeners to make up their own minds.

This sort of thing
happens in the physical sciences as well.

Cite?

Google Gary Schwarz. Or Nobel laureate Brian Josephson. Both whackos.

moo

"Happy Dog" wrote in message
. ..
"Matt Barrow"


And in the meantime he's polluting our youth minds. That's NOT the
purpose
of education, especially tax funded "education".

Yes. Don't trust listeners to make up their own minds.

Oh, yes...students have that ability (they're just marking time in class,
you know) and that option.

These are not merely commentators, but people that have more influence on
young people then even their parents. Of course, in the modern age,
education is much more indoctrination in an agenda than teaching how to
think.


This sort of thing
happens in the physical sciences as well.

Cite?

Google Gary Schwarz. Or Nobel laureate Brian Josephson. Both whackos.

And their influence on the young people is...what, exactly?

"Matt Barrow"
And in the meantime he's polluting our youth minds. That's NOT the
purpose of education, especially tax funded "education".

Yes. Don't trust listeners to make up their own minds.

Oh, yes...students have that ability (they're just marking time in class,
you know) and that option.

These are not merely commentators, but people that have more influence on
young people then even their parents. Of course, in the modern age,
education is much more indoctrination in an agenda than teaching how to
think.

Have you been to university? There are plenty of profs who are
controversial. Unless they're saying something politically incorrect, they
don't get much attention outside the ivory tower. Do you really believe
that this guys students are going to be unbale to think their way through
anything he says? Or just the outrageous stuff?


This sort of thing
happens in the physical sciences as well.

Cite?

Google Gary Schwarz. Or Nobel laureate Brian Josephson. Both whackos.

And their influence on the young people is...what, exactly?

They'll be influenced by bull**** pseudoscience. That was *your* point, no?
Bad profs unduly influencing the sponge-like minds of both undergrad and
grad students?

moo

"Happy Dog" wrote in message
. ..
"Matt Barrow"
And in the meantime he's polluting our youth minds. That's NOT the
purpose of education, especially tax funded "education".

Yes. Don't trust listeners to make up their own minds.

Oh, yes...students have that ability (they're just marking time in
class,
you know) and that option.

These are not merely commentators, but people that have more influence
on
young people then even their parents. Of course, in the modern age,
education is much more indoctrination in an agenda than teaching how to
think.

Have you been to university?

Yeah, probably more than you have and three times as a parent.

There are plenty of profs who are
controversial.

Controversial, sure; psychotic, is a whole different story. The braindead
nature of many propfs, now with tax funded tenure, is evident all through
our society.

Unless they're saying something politically incorrect, they
don't get much attention outside the ivory tower. Do you really believe
that this guys students are going to be unbale to think their way through
anything he says?

Some do, many do. It's the nature of learning. While his spew generated
attention THIS time, it's not unusual in any sense.

He's not a commentator, he's ostensibly a _teacher_.

Or just the outrageous stuff?

As before, this isn't his only instance and it sure as hell isn't the only
instance, by far, in that loony bin they call _academia_.



This sort of thing
happens in the physical sciences as well.

Cite?

Google Gary Schwarz. Or Nobel laureate Brian Josephson. Both whackos.

And their influence on the young people is...what, exactly?

They'll be influenced by bull**** pseudoscience.

Are these guys teachers/professors?

That was *your* point, no?


Are these guys teachers/professors?

Bad profs unduly influencing the sponge-like minds of both undergrad and
grad students?

So, let's just let the status quo run?

I wonder what quality of professors you were expose to? :~)