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Bob Fry wrote:
"Matt Barrow" writes:


His right to free speech does NOT include being paid to spew his neurotic
drivel.


True, the 1st amendment right to free speech is not about tenure or
having a publically paid position to make the offending speech.

But tenure is a critical element of western freedoms.

Tenure is one of the main reasons public education is as bad as it is.

"Newps" wrote in

But tenure is a critical element of western freedoms.

Tenure is one of the main reasons public education is as bad as it is.

And, no doubt, you can explain this in a bit more detail. What's the
alternative?

moo

"Happy Dog" wrote in message
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And, no doubt, you can explain this in a bit more detail. What's the
alternative?


Why must there be an alternative?

Newps writes:

Tenure is one of the main reasons public education is as bad as it is.

Huh?

Tenure as we're discussing here is university-level, academic tenure.
The USA still has some of the best universities in the world, and I'd
say tenure is partly responsible for that.

Maybe you're thinking of civil-service protection for grade-school
teachers.

"Bob Fry" wrote in message
...

Tenure as we're discussing here is university-level, academic tenure.
The USA still has some of the best universities in the world, and I'd
say tenure is partly responsible for that.


Why? Tenure protects poor instructors.

"Newps" wrote in message
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Bob Fry wrote:
"Matt Barrow" writes:


His right to free speech does NOT include being paid to spew his
neurotic
drivel.


True, the 1st amendment right to free speech is not about tenure or
having a publically paid position to make the offending speech.

But tenure is a critical element of western freedoms.

No, rationality is.


Tenure is one of the main reasons public education is as bad as it is.

BINGO!!

"Matt Barrow" wrote

Tenure is one of the main reasons public education is as bad as it is.

BINGO!!


Statements like that show that you are only smart enough to play a game. ;-)
There are many problems in education, but tenure does not even make the top
ten. For you to say that, shows you are not in agreement with the experts
in education, or it's critics. Do some research.

Low teacher pay is the biggest single reason that public education is in
trouble, IMHO. Most smart people go to the public sector where they can
make double or triple their teacher salary.

A close second is the lack of support teachers get from administration, but
mainly, from most parents. Get a problem child? Meet the parent, *if* you
can get them to come to the school for a meeting. The apple does not fall
very far from the tree.

I said before, that I was not going to get sucked in on this debate. I'm
done, now.
--
Jim in NC