Guess Who's Planning to Shine Lasers on Pilots

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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I'll say this about it, though: Your post better illustrates everything
that is wrong with the Left, and its "nothing is black and white in a gray
world" philosophy, than anything I could have ever said.

And your post (and John's) simply affirms exactly what I said would happen.
Thank you very much for proving my point.

You're probably too old for you to ever get over the "Left versus Right"
mentality. If you haven't done it by now, you probably never will. But
suffice to say, it's not a useful way to think about things.

Pete

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message ...
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:e9HSd.16228$4D6.7303@attbi_s51...
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I'll say this about it, though: Your post better illustrates everything that is wrong with the Left, and its
"nothing is black and white in a gray world" philosophy, than anything I could have ever said.

And your post (and John's) simply affirms exactly what I said would happen. Thank you very much for proving my point.

You're probably too old for you to ever get over the "Left versus Right" mentality. If you haven't done it by now,
you probably never will. But suffice to say, it's not a useful way to think about things.

Pete


You know, it is kind of interesting. It used to be everything Red was bad, and there was no blue, it was just USA...

"Peter Duniho" writes:

You're probably too old for you to ever get over the "Left versus Right"
mentality. If you haven't done it by now, you probably never will. But
suffice to say, it's not a useful way to think about things.

I don't think age is the factor for being unable to see different
viewpoints (let alone accept some). Rather, it's intellectual
isolation; perhaps a fear, akin to religionists, that a new idea may
upset one's belief system. You might find out that everything you
thought you knew, you didn't.

Anyway, thanks for pointing out the uselessness of "left vs. right",
a.k.a. us vs. them, good vs. evil, right vs. wrong. Binary choices
are good for digital computers and little else.

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message


And your post (and John's) simply affirms exactly what I said would
happen. Thank you very much for proving my point.

No, Pete, you're just being as obstinate as you're accusing us of being.

Specifically, what did you personally do that deserved the deaths of over
3000 people? Then tell me what *I* did (since you claim to know me well
enough to include me in the "all of us" you mentioned).

This isn't about Left/Right, Lib/Con. It's about you being an ass.

You want to talk about particular policies of the US and how they may be
justified or not, let's talk. There's certainly room for discussion. Start
accusing me of being complicit in the attack on the USA and you're doing
nothing but picking a fight - and you damned well knew it or you wouldn't be
saying "you proved my point". You remind me of somebody standing in front
of the news cameras putting fire to an American flag "in protest" then
complaining of intolerance when somebody crosses the street to plant a boot
up the burner's ass.

Most reasonable people don't like being poked in the eye then being told
*they* are the intolerant ones after they break the finger doing the poking.

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John T
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"John T" wrote in message
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Specifically, what did you personally do that deserved the deaths of over
3000 people?

What part of "Do NOT construe any of my comments as condonement of the
terrorist
activities" are you having such a hard time comprehending? Are those words
really that big? Maybe you should get a dictionary?

No one *deserves* an attack like those that took down the WTC towers. But
to sit there dumb and happy thinking that it was completely out of the blue,
motivated by nothing that Americans have done, that's just ostrich-think.

Pete

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message


What part of "Do NOT construe any of my comments as condonement of the
terrorist
activities" are you having such a hard time comprehending?

*You* are the one who said "we are all complicit in the origins of
terrorism...we are all guilty". Since the 9/11 attacks were the result of
terrorism and you're saying we're all complicit in the origins of that, I'm
asking what specifically did you, Peter Duniho, do to deserve the deaths
wrought by the terrorism you claim we spawned?

No one *deserves* an attack like those that took down the WTC towers. But
to sit there dumb and happy thinking that it was completely out
of the blue, motivated by nothing that Americans have done, that's
just ostrich-think.

"We don't deserve it, but it's our fault"? If it's truly our fault (because
of what we've done), then how can you claim we don't deserve it?

--
John T
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"John T" wrote in message
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"We don't deserve it, but it's our fault"? If it's truly our fault
(because of what we've done), then how can you claim we don't deserve it?

"Fault" implies cause and effect. "Deserve" is a subjective judgment of
justice.

Until you can comprehend the difference, you'll never have a clue about what
I'm talking about.

Pete

Peter Duniho wrote:

"Fault" implies cause and effect. "Deserve" is a subjective judgment
of justice.

OK, Pete. Kindly tell our esteemed readers what you personally did to cause
the terrorism that spawned the 9/11 attacks. After all, you said you were
"complicit" in that. I'm really curious what is causing your guilt.

After you address that, you can tell me what *I* did (since you so
generously included me in your "guilty" class).

Or can you? I can understand if you can't.

Really.

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John T
http://tknowlogy.com/TknoFlyer
http://www.pocketgear.com/products_s...veloperid=4415
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