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Colin, I agree with you completely. I live at the base of the
Rockies and have flown the "rocks" for 10 years in various singles, the last 7 or so in my 182. My personal limit is that I'd never attempt it at night. Too many variables and too few options should there be an emergency. I'll take it one further and again, it's just my own personal limiter. Call me wimp, doesn't bother me. I won't fly a single at night, period. I've done it and it was beautiful but I don't like the idea of looking for an emergency landing option blindfolded. For me, safe flying is all about exercising prudent judgement. Granted, this can be very subjective although sometimes there are absolutes. Such as taking off into a cell where 2000fpm downdrafts have been reported. But, for me, mountain flying is strictly a daylight activity. Alan Bloom N8565T '60 Skylane Dogs can fly. http://www.flyingmutts.com On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:01:18 +1300, "Cockpit Colin" wrote: motorcycles. news here a couple of weeks ago about some poor old fart who was sitting on his porch when an 18-wheeler tire exploded and blew him away. true. In my opinion it's more accurate to say that "so and so was prepared to accept a level of risk that is higher than what I would be prepared to accept" than it is to call something "dangerous". Unfortunately, too many pilots continue to accept too high a level of risk - and as a result, they keep on dying horrible deaths. For me, safety isn't about the number of times you prepare for an event that never happens (eg wearing a seatbelt when you didn't have an accident) - it's all about avoiding the one time when something does go wrong - and the pilot is totally unprepared to cope with it. Night flying over inhospitable terrain in a single? No thanks - not for me. |
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Nice web site.
Have you ever considered home brewing a fire protectin system for your house? A pipe on the roof with holes drilled in it to keep the shingles wet. Directional irrigation sprinklers keeping the walls wet. A high volume irrigation pump, I'm thinking gas, so power outages will not be a problem. Pump out of the swimming pool. If you don't have a pool, now you have an excuse to get one! -- Jim in NC |
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![]() Morgans wrote: Have you ever considered home brewing a fire protectin system for your house? A pipe on the roof with holes drilled in it to keep the shingles wet. Directional irrigation sprinklers keeping the walls wet. Real sprinkler heads will do a much better job and are not all that expensive. For this type of system, you could use open heads. IIRC, each head typically covers 150'sq. A high volume irrigation pump, I'm thinking gas, so power outages will not be a problem. Pump out of the swimming pool. If you don't have a pool, now you have an excuse to get one! Two basic types of pumps are usually used for this sort of thing. A diaphram pump (such as a "mud puppy") will maintain constant pressure. A piston pump maintains constant volume. A properly sized piston pump would be best in an open system. I no longer remember the flow figures, but a swimming pool wouldn't last long enough to handle a situation such as the brush fires California suffers. I spent a year designing systems for Grinnell Fire Protection once. George Patterson I prefer Heaven for climate but Hell for company. |
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Hi fellow wimp
![]() For me, safe flying is all about exercising prudent judgement. Granted, this can be very subjective although sometimes there are absolutes. Such as taking off into a cell where 2000fpm downdrafts have been reported. But, for me, mountain flying is strictly a daylight activity. Or perhaps a slightly different slant ... "In any situation if you can choose to do something 2 ways - one being more safe - the other being less safe - then why on earth wouldn't you choose the safer one? |
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Cockpit Colin wrote:
Hi fellow wimp ![]() For me, safe flying is all about exercising prudent judgement. Granted, this can be very subjective although sometimes there are absolutes. Such as taking off into a cell where 2000fpm downdrafts have been reported. But, for me, mountain flying is strictly a daylight activity. Or perhaps a slightly different slant ... "In any situation if you can choose to do something 2 ways - one being more safe - the other being less safe - then why on earth wouldn't you choose the safer one? Because the less safe one may be more rewarding. We do lots of activities that aren't absolutely necessary. Mountain climbing is more dangerous than many other ways to get to the top of a mountain, but lots of folks do it. I like to tour on a motorcycle. It certainly isn't the safest way to get from point A to point B, but it is very rewarding. Matt Matt |
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On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 06:33:36 -0500, Matt Whiting
wrote: I like to tour on a motorcycle. It certainly isn't the safest way to get from point A to point B, but it is very rewarding. But, would you make that journey to point B in a pitch black night, with no headlight or tail light? I'm not risk averse, I'm stupid averse. |
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Alan wrote:
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 06:33:36 -0500, Matt Whiting wrote: I like to tour on a motorcycle. It certainly isn't the safest way to get from point A to point B, but it is very rewarding. But, would you make that journey to point B in a pitch black night, with no headlight or tail light? I'm not risk averse, I'm stupid averse. No, because that would constitute riding with broken equipment. I wouldn't fly a single at night in IMC without cockpit lights or radios either, but I will and have with all equipment working. Sure, if the engine quits it will be ugly, but that is a very remote possibility and one that I accept every now and again if the trip is important enough. Matt |
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![]() "Matt Whiting" wrote Sure, if the engine quits it will be ugly, but that is a very remote possibility and one that I accept every now and again if the trip is important enough. Matt Do me a favor, and settle a bet. Would you mind telling us how old you are? -- Jim in NC |
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Ok, I fly IMC at night, single engine on the east coast. Granted, they
aren't as high as the Rockies or Sierra Nevada mountains. But day or night, they still don't provide a good place to land. When I fly at night, I have two flash lights (minimum), spare batteries for both. If any light in/on the plane is not working, it is a no-go. The GPS must have the most current map, the VORs must have just been tested (e.g., in air, VOT, etc.), both radios must be functional, I carry both VFR and IFR charts and both are marked for planned flight. I generally file for 7,000 to 10,000 (well above the Min altitudes) and ask for direct. My wife generally is following along on the VFR charts to know where the closest airport is (and we use the GPS to assist in this). Oh, did I mention I also have a hand-held GPS as well? And I work at *NOT* getting into icing conditions (probably why the plane has been in the hanger since November 04). I am 49, 330+ hours, have a family that flies with me in IMC. Regards, Steve.T PP ASEL/Instrument |
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Morgans wrote:
"Matt Whiting" wrote Sure, if the engine quits it will be ugly, but that is a very remote possibility and one that I accept every now and again if the trip is important enough. Matt Do me a favor, and settle a bet. Would you mind telling us how old you are? 45. Who won the bet? :-) Matt |
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