Your fancy schmancy dream machine

On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 18:25:51 GMT, Ernest Christley
wrote:

Some of you snot nosed ****ers are so full of yourselves.

I must say, of all the posters in this thread, you seem the most "snot
nosed and full of yourself".

Anyone with above average intelligence can design a build a plane with the right
attitude.

One need only look to the early ultralight years to see the carnage
wrought by the designs of those of "above average intelligence" who
*thought* they had the "right attitude". Many of those designers
lacked experience with time proven airplane designs and building
techniques.

Go build your Delta Dyke, Ernest, and stop bull ****ting about
"advancing the state of aviation" - something of which you clearly
haven't a clue. The original poster suggested that you dreamers
build, fly, and maintain a time proven design first, that's all. If
after that you still want to design and build your dream machine then
have at it. You may still kill yourself in the process but your
chances of building something that doesn't kill you will be better
than if you hadn't built that first time proven design. A simple
concept but, apparently, not simple enough for some.

Bill Taylor wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 18:25:51 GMT, Ernest Christley
wrote:


Some of you snot nosed ****ers are so full of yourselves.


I must say, of all the posters in this thread, you seem the most "snot
nosed and full of yourself".


Anyone with above average intelligence can design a build a plane with the right
attitude.


One need only look to the early ultralight years to see the carnage
wrought by the designs of those of "above average intelligence" who
*thought* they had the "right attitude". Many of those designers
lacked experience with time proven airplane designs and building
techniques.

Were they asking questions and running careful experiments? Or were
they throwing a bed sheet over some bamboo and yelling, "Heh, Bubba,
watch what the FAA says I can do!"


Go build your Delta Dyke, Ernest, and stop bull ****ting about
"advancing the state of aviation" - something of which you clearly
haven't a clue. The original poster suggested that you dreamers
build, fly, and maintain a time proven design first, that's all. If
after that you still want to design and build your dream machine then
have at it. You may still kill yourself in the process but your
chances of building something that doesn't kill you will be better
than if you hadn't built that first time proven design. A simple
concept but, apparently, not simple enough for some.




So you would set a poll tax upon asking questions here in RAH? What if
the plans for that time proven design aren't complete? How long must I
to fly that time proven design before I can ask questions? And just how
many accident reports list asking questions in RAH as a contributing cause?

It is a simple concept. Learning before doing. But is building a plane
the only way to learn how to build a plane?

I've learned a hundred things from post on this group that sprung from
some newbie asking a 'dream' question. Things that have improved my
Delta. Some things were completely new information. Some things were
just a better way of looking at the same old stuff. Often a simple
question has lead to a warning to do/not do something that I may have
been completely oblivious to. Why should I stop asking, learning or
experimenting just because I haven't built an airplane? Why should I do
anything that would chill anyone else's desire to do the same? Why
should I stop doing the one thing that seperates humans from trained
monkeys? Especially when one question can lead to saving hours in
building (because I don't have to redo something).

Because it's dangerous? Isn't that the point of experimenting, BEFORE
you fly it? Even then, isn't it better than sitting in your own
excrement until the nurse comes while you wait to die at the end of a
boring life. (Yes, it is a horribly mangled attempt to paraphrase a very
good sentiment.)

And as a final statement, try a thought experiment. Assume all the
dreamers dissappear. Given that people who participate here represent
an extreme wealth of knowledge, what will happen to that knowledge?
Will Jim Weir just randomly drop pearls of wisdom (I know he does in
Kitplanes, but I mean here for free)? Will Veedubber just mindlessly
throw out information on why you can't get 2,000hp out of 50cu. in.?
What will be the sounding board?

I say let the dreamers share what they're thinking. And let the rest of
us try to keep up.

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Because it's dangerous? Isn't that the point of experimenting, BEFORE
you fly it? Even then, isn't it better than sitting in your own
excrement until the nurse comes while you wait to die at the end of a
boring life. (Yes, it is a horribly mangled attempt to paraphrase a very
good sentiment.)

I liked it. You have the right perspective. My motto from Heinlin is
to Take Big Bites of Life, Moderation is for Monks.


And as a final statement, try a thought experiment. Assume all the
dreamers dissappear. Given that people who participate here represent
an extreme wealth of knowledge, what will happen to that knowledge?
Will Jim Weir just randomly drop pearls of wisdom (I know he does in
Kitplanes, but I mean here for free)? Will Veedubber just mindlessly
throw out information on why you can't get 2,000hp out of 50cu. in.?
What will be the sounding board?

Good points...all.


I say let the dreamers share what they're thinking. And let the rest of
us try to keep up.

You see, your in the wrong place for this, for the most part. Be
careful. I've seen a lot of information passed on here over the years
that's actually directed people to do dangerous things, especially
some of the maintenance comments.

BWB