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Old February 25th 05, 01:03 AM
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Okay, it's generally considered bad form to follow up your own post,
but looking at things, it looks like an approach to HWD or SJC,
followed by cancelling and proceeding VFR to PAO would work.

-- dj

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Old February 25th 05, 03:57 AM
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DJ,
I never scud run in bad weather over a route that I have not 'surveyed' in
good weather. Every route has its limitations.
The Carqunez Straits have orange balls on the wires now but
You should know that above all the wires you can see by about
ten feet is another wire you won't see in time to miss it. Fly over
the towers ONLY. Fly your SVFR routes in good conditions to take the stress
out of doing it when weather is poor.

The absolute lowest route could well be by way of Susun
Bay. Never fly along the shoreline of a river used by large ships.
600' towers live there. The valley into Hayward from Dublin has
a power line. Don't fly it until you have flown over it's towers to
find your MSA (Minimum Safe Altitude)

Go from Benicia to Vallejo via freeway and then use your radio to
get through Oakland's airspace SVFR if you must. 600' will do it.

Watch out for errors in ATC instructions. Once I was told to fly
to the middle of the San Mateo Bridge enroute to PAO. My
early experience in Florida during the war taught me that a causeway was not
a bridge. I took three heads-up calls by me to get ATC
to realize that they were vectoring me right into SFO final approach
corridor which is over a bridge that has a long causeway to the west.

Use good weather as an opportunity to determine your MSA both for weather
and night. Hardly a year goes by that some high-time
pilot in the Bay Area gets down to get under when he should'nt.
Gene Whitt


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Old February 25th 05, 04:56 AM
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Never fly along the shoreline of a river used by large ships.
600' towers live there.


What towers are these? Are you referring to the masts? (Even the
original Queen Mary is only three hundred and something)

Or are you referring to the supports for wires and bridges to cross the
river high enough to let the ship pass?

Jose
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Old February 27th 05, 05:36 AM
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Jose,
In the northern reaches of San Francisco Bay there are rivers
flowing in from the the interior of California. Ships go all the way
to Sacrameto and Stockton. Power lines cross these waterways.

On either side of the rivers there are much higher than normal power lines
(200') needed to hold the power lines above the ships sailing
up/down river. They vary in height lbut in excess of 600' is not unusual.
These power lines love to eat low flying aircraft.

Therefore flying close along the shorlines or even along the river
can be relatively dangerous.

gene Whitt

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Never fly along the shoreline of a river used by large ships.
600' towers live there.


What towers are these? Are you referring to the masts? (Even the
original Queen Mary is only three hundred and something)

Or are you referring to the supports for wires and bridges to cross the
river high enough to let the ship pass?

Jose
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Nothing is more powerful than a commercial interest.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.



 




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