Jim Stephenson talking about Sport Pilot Blitz

ET wrote:


I've just seen Mark, and a few others like him post untruthes and half
truths about sport pilot. He finally gave up on the Yahoo sportpilot
group since his every whine was proven wrong.

Quite frankly, I just think anyone who posts under his real name etc, is
foolish for doing so. Too many crazys out there, WAY too many.

nobody ever refuted anything I said about sprot pile it,

I stated the planes would be expensive and they are, way more than
projected,

I stated that few would fly sprot planes unless they bought their own,
nobody ever refuted that statement, just said that they might buy one
with a partner, duh!

show me what I said that was refuted,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

you can't,

there are more anti sprot than not,

again, sprot pile it, written by those who don't fly much about planes
they don't fly at all

and i could personally care less about sprot,

my reason for thinking it SUCKS is that it halted the exemption, which I
train under,,,,,,,,

well, used to !

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Mark Smith
Tri-State Kite Sales http://www.trikite.com
1121 N Locust St
Mt Vernon, IN 47620

Mark Smith wrote in :

ET wrote:


I've just seen Mark, and a few others like him post untruthes and
half truths about sport pilot. He finally gave up on the Yahoo
sportpilot group since his every whine was proven wrong.

Quite frankly, I just think anyone who posts under his real name etc,
is foolish for doing so. Too many crazys out there, WAY too many.

nobody ever refuted anything I said about sprot pile it,

I stated the planes would be expensive and they are, way more than
projected,

I stated that few would fly sprot planes unless they bought their own,
nobody ever refuted that statement, just said that they might buy one
with a partner, duh!

show me what I said that was refuted,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

you can't,

there are more anti sprot than not,

again, sprot pile it, written by those who don't fly much about planes
they don't fly at all

and i could personally care less about sprot,

my reason for thinking it SUCKS is that it halted the exemption, which
I train under,,,,,,,,

well, used to !


Why did you "used to" the exemption doesn't end until the end of 2008!

As for the rest: Well, let's see.

You said, in a nutshell, that you could no longer train UL'rs.

I said yes you can, get it converted to eLSA, of course, you've got till
the end of 2008 to do so, so it's really business as usual until then,
then you can use your newly registered eLSA till the end of 2010 for
training. From the time you get it registered as an eLSA until the end
of 2010, you can not only train potential UL'rs you can also train
people who want to learn to pilot real aircraft! (Oh, sorry I mean
those big heavy things that you don't want anything to do with).

You said: I missed the point, something about building etc.: I didn't
see a point to arguing about that, actually I agree with you that you
should be able to assemble something as simple as a Quick, but that's
not the rule, and I really can't see it as being a big deal.

But hey, if Quicksilver decides not to put together Consensus standards
SLSA's well, there is your opportunity eh? You can do a little
paperwork, assemble them, sell them as SLSA's with Quicksilver as your
materials supplier and life goes on. But I will bet you all the money
in my pocket Quicksilver will be producing SLSAs before the end of 2008,
regardless of what anyone at quicksilver may have told you. (OK there
is not very much money in my pocket, but it's the principle that counts
;-) )

As far as you last statement. There are already at least 2 companies
that I know of that are planing on having national centers to rent SLSA
Zodiac 601XLs; there is already a firm on the east coast offering SP
training and rental in several Ercoupes. (
http://shoreline.americansportflying.com/index.html

, and the consensus standards just got accepted by the FAA last week.
So your last statment is all wet.

Start being a part of the solution instead of part of the problem. Get
yourself 5 or 6 quicksilvers and get them regestered as grandfathered
eLSA. You can rent them out to Private pilots, or Sport Pilot students
as soon as they are inspected and converted. As a BFI transferring to
SPI you can convert as many as you want and train in them, and rent them
all out until the end of 2010. Tell me you can't make money on them in
almost 6 years! If you sell them, the grandfathering goes WITH THEM!
How great is that??



That's all really,

The rest of this thread has degenerated into people telling me that
unless I use my own name, I'll be ignored. Of course they haven't been
ignoring me have they ;-)

The only other reason I can think of that you are so bitter is that you
may have had a previous medical denied, but I can't find any post of
yours that actually says that.





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-- ET :-)

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fools."---- Douglas Adams

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 20:05:44 GMT, ET wrote:

But hey, if Quicksilver decides not to put together Consensus standards
SLSA's well, there is your opportunity eh? You can do a little
paperwork, assemble them, sell them as SLSA's with Quicksilver as your
materials supplier and life goes on.

Well...I wouldn't use the term "a little paperwork."

While you no longer have to submit the data to the FAA for approval, you are
still required to perform a good amount of structural analysis and testing.
This data is supposed to be on-file at your factory; if the FAA does a spot
check and you don't have it, they'll pull the airworthiness certificates for
every plane you've ever sold. You'd have to reverse-engineer the Quicksilver.

Also, as part of the certification process, you have to generate a manufacturing
plan with quality control, publish full maintenance manuals, and establish a
system to monitor the fleet's airworthiness.

The program is designed for small companies, but not one- or two-man operations.

My feel is that as the deadline nears, there are probably going to be companies
that produce minimalist LSAs for ultralight training. The simpler the aircraft
is, the less the amount of paperwork.

Ron Wanttaja