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![]() "Robert M. Gary" wrote in message oups.com... I don't think he "flew". He never left ground effect. So by that definition, the Wright brothers didn't 'fly' until 1905... |
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no, it's ok. when they flew, ground effect hadn't been invented yet.
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no, it's ok. when they flew, ground effect hadn't been invented yet.
You mean Dan Quale wasn't around? g,d Jose -- Math is a game. The object of the game is to figure out the rules. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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Blueskies wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message oups.com... I don't think he "flew". He never left ground effect. So by that definition, the Wright brothers didn't 'fly' until 1905... I've also heard someone say he flew farther then the Wrights as some sort of justification for this "flight". All of these comparisons are lame. I don't see anything that looks like ailerons on the wings, was he even prepared for flight? Elevators? Part of the "Wright stuff" (what a great pun) was the understanding the role of control and providing for it in their designs. Without it there is no airplane, just a toy. Nowadays there are plenty of ways to calculate ahead of time whether or not the machine is capable of flight. Eyeball, by gosh and by golly engineering also went out with the Wrights. My guess is they knew it was just capable of a hop and figured that was the safest way out. Otherwise they could have put more wing on it and got a real flight. -- Frank....H |
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![]() "Frank...." wrote: I don't see anything that looks like ailerons on the wings, was he even prepared for flight? Elevators? I see a control horn and aileron hinge line on the right wing. There are also signs of hinges and a visible control wire for a rudder on the right vertical stabilizer. The horizontal stabilizer isn't visible in the photo I see. George Patterson I prefer Heaven for climate but Hell for company. |
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("Jose" wrote)
no, it's ok. when they flew, ground effect hadn't been invented yet. You mean Dan Quale wasn't around? AlGore ....waiting for AlGore to reinvent himself. Montblack |
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Who cares!!! jesse james is my hero!!! (well......sorta)
Actually the producer Hugh King is my hero as he makes getting your hads dirty a cool thing!! The lack of skilled tradepersons in the steel trades here in canada is a very real problem and we all feel it! Putting wings on a car and making it fly a few feet may look impresive but I am hoping that some impressionable young lad or lass sees this and decides that being a Doctor or Lawyer is not for them and will try out the trades and build something really incredible! I have watched Monster Garage since it was first aired on Discovery Channel and I love it! |
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George Patterson wrote:
"Frank...." wrote: I don't see anything that looks like ailerons on the wings, was he even prepared for flight? Elevators? I see a control horn and aileron hinge line on the right wing. There are also signs of hinges and a visible control wire for a rudder on the right vertical stabilizer. The horizontal stabilizer isn't visible in the photo I see. George Patterson I prefer Heaven for climate but Hell for company. I stand corrected, it does have ailerons. However according to a blurb in the AOPA e-newsletter it "...had no rudders, so crosswinds were a concern". I'm sure it's entertaining and all, my gripe is with the comparisons to the Wrights and the notion that this is some sort of serious attempt to fly. -- Frank....H |
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Larry Dighera wrote:
Here's a photo of the latest flying car in flight: http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories...2751&ran=95111 MAPLE, N.C. — An adoring crowd whooped and hollered as Jesse James, host of the hit television show “Monster Garage,” flew Friday – just about as far as the Wright brothers did – in a sports car with wings at the Currituck Regional Airport. I wonder which "Cessna engine" they used? "For this project, James chose engineers from Cessna and from the makers of the Panoz" |
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