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Old March 14th 05, 12:13 AM
Blueskies
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"Happy Dog" wrote in message .. .
"Helen Woods" wrote in message

Call me old fashioned, but you won't find me behind a glass panel or flying a "plastic" airplane. Just something
about flying a bird where all the instruments don't rely on one type of system and the wings won't ever delaminate no
matter what color I paint them...


OK You're old fashioned. Your reference to "a "plastic" airplane" suggests that you're uneducated as well. As for
"glass panel" avionics, the future will leave you behind. I assume you never fly in newer commercial airliners.

moo


It is interesting that GPS only IFR is not approved...


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Old March 14th 05, 01:23 AM
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"Blueskies" wrote in message

It is interesting that GPS only IFR is not approved...


I'm not in the mood to back up my statements with cites, or links, but I do
believe you are incorrect.
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Old March 14th 05, 02:28 AM
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"Morgans" wrote in message news

"Blueskies" wrote in message

It is interesting that GPS only IFR is not approved...


I'm not in the mood to back up my statements with cites, or links, but I do
believe you are incorrect.
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Jim in NC




You always have to have 'conventional' ground based navigation equipment on board and operational and at least one
'conventional' approach available at your alternate airport. You still cannot go 'only GPS'.


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Old March 14th 05, 03:15 PM
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"Blueskies" wrote in message
om...


You always have to have 'conventional' ground based navigation equipment

on board and operational and at least one
'conventional' approach available at your alternate airport. You still

cannot go 'only GPS'.


That waasn't true since WAAS waas approved under 146a!

Okay...GROAN!!
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Old March 15th 05, 01:57 AM
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message ...

"Blueskies" wrote in message
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You always have to have 'conventional' ground based navigation equipment

on board and operational and at least one
'conventional' approach available at your alternate airport. You still

cannot go 'only GPS'.


That waasn't true since WAAS waas approved under 146a!

Okay...GROAN!!
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO



Gotta have WAAS, not straight GPS. That WAAS what I waas saying. Interesting how they use the geostationary satellite to
relay the information...



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Old March 14th 05, 02:57 AM
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"Blueskies"

It is interesting that GPS only IFR is not approved...


It is interesting that IFR without GPS is approved.

moo


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Old March 14th 05, 03:55 AM
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On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:13:38 GMT, "Blueskies"
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It is interesting that GPS only IFR is not approved..


Your statement is out of date since the implementation of WAAS and boxes
certified under TSO146a.

"...installation of WAAS avionics does not require the aircraft to have
other equipment appropriate to the route to be flown."




Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)
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Old March 15th 05, 01:59 AM
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"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote in message ...
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:13:38 GMT, "Blueskies"
wrote:

It is interesting that GPS only IFR is not approved..


Your statement is out of date since the implementation of WAAS and boxes
certified under TSO146a.

"...installation of WAAS avionics does not require the aircraft to have
other equipment appropriate to the route to be flown."




Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)


It has to have the additional WAAS avionics goodies. Simple GPS needs the backup.


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Old March 15th 05, 03:09 AM
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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:59:29 GMT, "Blueskies"
wrote:


"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote in message ...
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:13:38 GMT, "Blueskies"
wrote:

It is interesting that GPS only IFR is not approved..


Your statement is out of date since the implementation of WAAS and boxes
certified under TSO146a.

"...installation of WAAS avionics does not require the aircraft to have
other equipment appropriate to the route to be flown."




Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)


It has to have the additional WAAS avionics goodies. Simple GPS needs the backup.


Nice back-pedaling.
Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)
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Old March 15th 05, 04:34 AM
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"Blueskies" wrote

It has to have the additional WAAS avionics goodies. Simple GPS needs the

backup.


You are picking nits. WASS *IS* GPS, MAN!

You said you could not use GPS alone for IFR. Yes you can, GPS with the
WAAS is STILL GPS!
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Jim in NC


 




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