Planning HPN to SAF

"Blanche" wrote in message =
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John R. Copeland wrote:
Adding another item -- The runways at the Santa Fe airport can be
fiendishly hard to see from a distance.
The pavement seems to blend in to the surrounding sand.
I'd suggest planning on an instrument approach regardless of weather.
=20
Nah...Come right over the SAF VOR, follow the straight line over
the prison and there you are.


Not meaning to pick nits, Blanche, but coming "right over the SAF"
isn't greatly different from the VOR Rwy 33 approach.
That's roughly the same as I suggested.
We eastern pilots can get unnerved by being unable to see a runway
ten miles away in 50-mile visibility.
I remember once telling the SAF tower I could see the airport,
but not the runway. :-[

John R. Copeland wrote:
"Blanche" wrote in message
John R. Copeland wrote:
Adding another item -- The runways at the Santa Fe airport can be
fiendishly hard to see from a distance.
The pavement seems to blend in to the surrounding sand.
I'd suggest planning on an instrument approach regardless of weather.

Nah...Come right over the SAF VOR, follow the straight line over
the prison and there you are.


Not meaning to pick nits, Blanche, but coming "right over the SAF"
isn't greatly different from the VOR Rwy 33 approach.
That's roughly the same as I suggested.
We eastern pilots can get unnerved by being unable to see a runway
ten miles away in 50-mile visibility.
I remember once telling the SAF tower I could see the airport,
but not the runway. :-[

Go ahead, pick nits...I deserved it...Since I don't fly into SAF
unless it's VMC, I never take the VOR approach...

And I can't count the number of times I've done go-arounds at
airports out here because I didn't see the runway until the last
minute and was too high, too fast or both. And sometimes, didn't
even see the airport....

"Blanche" wrote in message =
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John R. Copeland wrote:

I remember once telling the SAF tower I could see the airport,
but not the runway. :-[
=20
Go ahead, pick nits...I deserved it...Since I don't fly into SAF
unless it's VMC, I never take the VOR approach...
=20
And I can't count the number of times I've done go-arounds at
airports out here because I didn't see the runway until the last=20
minute and was too high, too fast or both. And sometimes, didn't
even see the airport....


Oh, good. That means it's not just me. :-)
Tom Fleischman, take note!

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"Blanche" wrote in message
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John R. Copeland wrote:

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And I can't count the number of times I've done go-arounds at
airports out here because I didn't see the runway until the last
minute and was too high, too fast or both. And sometimes, didn't
even see the airport....


Oh, good. That means it's not just me. :-)
Tom Fleischman, take note!


Thanks, I have.