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March 20th 05, 06:34 PM
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message ... In article , "Matt Barrow" wrote: Juries determine facts, not law (who is responsible -- this might not be Juries don't determine facts. Facts exist or don't. Hmmm!! As my Dad used to say, "Is that a fact?". And how do you know they exist or not? Gee, using that logic, why do we bother to investigate? Hell, why do we go further and bother to try the case at all? Matt --------------------- Matthew W. Barrow Site-Fill Homes, LLC. Montrose, CO 
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March 20th 05, 08:02 PM
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In article ,
"Matt Barrow" wrote: Juries determine facts, not law (who is responsible -- this might not be Juries don't determine facts. Facts exist or don't. Hmmm!! As my Dad used to say, "Is that a fact?". yep And how do you know they exist or not? Think about the difference between having commited a crime and being convicted of a crime in a court of law. Think about how a jury could actually "determine facts" if some of the evidence is excluded because it was improperly obtained. Gee, using that logic, why do we bother to investigate? Hell, why do we go further and bother to try the case at all? yeah, that's a logical conclusion to reach... -- Bob Noel looking for a sig the lawyers will like
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March 21st 05, 04:02 AM
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message ... In article , "Matt Barrow" wrote: Juries determine facts, not law (who is responsible -- this might not be Juries don't determine facts. Facts exist or don't. Hmmm!! As my Dad used to say, "Is that a fact?". yep And how do you know they exist or not? Think about the difference between having commited a crime and being convicted of a crime in a court of law. Think about how a jury could actually "determine facts" if some of the evidence is excluded because it was improperly obtained. Not an attorney, are 'ya? Or an epistolologist? Gee, using that logic, why do we bother to investigate? Hell, why do we go further and bother to try the case at all? yeah, that's a logical conclusion to reach... Yeah, your attempt to spin your dumbass remark is where it leads. -- Matt --------------------- Matthew W. Barrow Site-Fill Homes, LLC. Montrose, CO
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March 21st 05, 11:48 AM
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In article ,
"Matt Barrow" wrote: Not an attorney, are 'ya? Or an epistolologist? Nope. And I don't need an attorney or a jury to tell me what a fact is. -- Bob Noel looking for a sig the lawyers will like
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March 22nd 05, 12:48 AM
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message ... In article , "Matt Barrow" wrote: Not an attorney, are 'ya? Or an epistolologist? Nope. And I don't need an attorney or a jury to tell me what a fact is. -- Bob Noel looking for a sig the lawyers will like Is that a fact? ;-)
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